408 - Andrew Gould & Michael Diamant - Architecture: The Most Important Art
The Symbolic World
Jonathan Pageau
4.8 • 933 Ratings
🗓️ 30 August 2025
⏱️ 74 minutes
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Summary
Michael shares the story of the Architecture Uprising movement across Europe, and Andrew explains how he approaches designing buildings that are rooted in tradition yet alive for today. Together we reflect on how beauty is not just a luxury—it’s essential for human flourishing.
Youtube version: https://youtu.be/uS_3FB7foVc?si=5zMFNf8ALUUAov9d
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Timestamps:
00:00 - Coming up
00:48 - Intro music
01:13 - Introduction
06:14 - What's great about ugly architecture?
09:27 - Politics
10:51 - The Brutalist
13:03 - City planning
15:28 - Density
20:28 - What is driving the madness?
27:03 - The options for architects
30:17 - What architecture is today
34:26 - Classical beauty
40:10 - Bad classical architecture
45:52 - Defending your culture
51:05 - Andrew Gould's work
01:01:02 - Architectural fashion
01:04:58 - The film industry
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| 0:56.7 | Dot co.uk slash try. City planning and architecture is the most important art. You know, I'm not an |
| 1:03.9 | architect, but I can see that because it fades behind people's perception. It pre-models the way that |
| 1:10.5 | people understand who they are, what's their relationship to each other, you know, what's inside, what's outside, you know, what is above, what is below. Just basic orientation in your life is based on city planning and an architecture. And there's a deep alienation in modern living |
| 1:29.3 | that comes from living in these horrible places |
| 1:31.9 | and these abstracted spaces with no center and no community |
| 1:35.9 | and no sense of relationships. |
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