407. What Changed Our Minds - From Two Former Christian Nationalists

The New Evangelicals Podcast

Tim Whitaker

News, Religion & Spirituality, Politics, Christianity

4.7 • 1K Ratings

🗓️ 8 December 2025

⏱️ 60 minutes

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In today's episode, Tim Whitaker engages in a candid conversation with Monte Mader, a musician turned content creator. They explore the challenges and transformations in their personal and professional lives, discussing the impact of Christian nationalism, the journey of deconstruction, and the pursuit of authenticity in faith and life. Monte's Website | Montemader.com Monte's Podcast | Flipping Tables Chapters 03:00 Impact of Christian Nationalism 09:00 Navigating Faith and Politics 15:00 Authenticity and Personal Beliefs 21:00 Challenges of Deconstruction 27:00 Community and Hope for the Future ____________________________________________________ TNE Podcast hosts thought-provoking conversations at the intersection of faith, politics, and justice. We’re part of the New Evangelical’s 501c3 nonprofit that rejects Christian Nationalism and builds a better path forward, rooted in Jesus and centered on justice. If ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠you'd like to support our work or get involved, visit our website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.thenewevangelicals.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Joshgilbertmedia.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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1:04.4	Welcome back to, is this odd. It is odd. Okay, welcome back to the podcast. So good to be
1:09.1	with you. I interviewed today the one and only Motti Mata. We've been friends for a couple months now. She's really amazing. Okay, welcome back to the podcast. So good to be with you. I interviewed today the one and only Motti Mater. We've been friends for a couple months now. She's really amazing. We just talked. This is just a fun, friendly conversation between two people who talk behind the scenes a lot and just kind of getting each other's thoughts on the state of the world, how we grew up and what we do with it. So I really hope that you enjoy this episode. I love conversations
1:27.6	like this. I like when it feels more personable. So I'm so happy to bring you this conversation.
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