Welcome to the Burling Instincts Podcast.

I'm Dr. Stewart Fishbein, community-based practicing obstetrician and long-time advocate for birth choices.

And I'm Bliss Young, a licensed midwife.

Join us in our conversational style podcast where we talk about everything birth.

Sometimes we laugh, sometimes we cry, but we're happy that you're here. So here we go.

Good morning, Bliss. You look great. Where are you?

Thanks, Stu. I'm just outside of Portland this morning, and we're meeting a little bit early because I'm going to interview Gail Hart today.

And she had a very tight window.

So, yeah, it's a busy day, but all very good and exciting things.

I think she's my seventh interview.

I can't wait for this project.

Oh, thanks.

There's secrecy there because I've asked you questions about it and to talk on the podcast.

You said, nope, we're not talking about it on a podcast because I'm doing it myself.

Yeah, I'm sure I'll drop some things here at some of their wisdom bombs here and there.

But I don't want to talk about like everything because there's an hour long interview for each one of these elders.

And we're best to tease it other than here on the podcast.

That's true.

But it's really cool because when you do like a historical project and you start to kind of weave the pieces together.

And right now I'm mostly California, Oregon. So I am. and you start to kind of weave the pieces together.

And right now I'm mostly California, Oregon.

So I am just California, Oregon.

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