Hi, I'm Stage and Stages Lin Manuel Miranda, and you're listening to The Hamilcast.

Butts and cuts and, and poops and... Hey friends I'm Jillian and welcome back to the Hamelcast. This week I'm

wrapping up my conversation with Jonathan Butler

Duplace, currently in the Broadway company of Hamilton. Look it's been a journey. These

episodes have been so fun, so moving, so inspiring. I've had a blast and I think

Jonathan is on to something with this no

shortcuts vibe. So here's a quick recap. Jonathan grew up in Champaign

Illinois and had a lot of success as an actor in Chicago. In fact he'd

eventually end up taking things off his resume so he didn't seem exclusively

Chicago-based.

He studied at the University of Illinois, and from there he was off and running.

He took what he learned and did an internship at the Milwaukee Repertory Theater for a year.

And that's where he learned what it was like to be a working actor.

He met people who were paying their bills, traveling, sending their kids to college,

and they were doing it as actors.

And that shaped the next 10 years of his career.

He was booking gigs, winning awards, and eventually, like all of us, heard about Hamilton. And Jonathan loved it. He says it was the first time Broadway really sounded like the radio. It was something new and fresh, and he ate it up.

But according to him, he was wrong for all the parts, all of them.

So after doing the notebook in Chicago, shout out to Ingrid Michelson, he very skeptically audition

for Hamilton.

Jonathan has some amazing things to say about his Broadway debut,

his connection to Aaron Burr,

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