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#407 – Guillaume Verdon: Beff Jezos, E/acc Movement, Physics, Computation & AGI

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Lex Fridman

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4.713K Ratings

🗓️ 29 December 2023

⏱️ 180 minutes

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Guillaume Verdon (aka Beff Jezos on Twitter) is a physicist, quantum computing researcher, and founder of e/acc (effective accelerationism) movement. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors:
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Guillaume Verdon Twitter: https://twitter.com/GillVerd
Beff Jezos Twitter: https://twitter.com/BasedBeffJezos
Extropic: https://extropic.ai/
E/acc Blog: https://effectiveaccelerationism.substack.com/

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OUTLINE:
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(00:00) - Introduction
(09:18) - Beff Jezos
(19:16) - Thermodynamics
(25:31) - Doxxing
(35:25) - Anonymous bots
(42:53) - Power
(45:24) - AI dangers
(48:56) - Building AGI
(57:09) - Merging with AI
(1:04:51) - p(doom)
(1:20:18) - Quantum machine learning
(1:33:36) - Quantum computer
(1:42:10) - Aliens
(1:46:59) - Quantum gravity
(1:52:20) - Kardashev scale
(1:54:12) - Effective accelerationism (e/acc)
(2:04:42) - Humor and memes
(2:07:48) - Jeff Bezos
(2:14:20) - Elon Musk
(2:20:50) - Extropic
(2:29:26) - Singularity and AGI
(2:33:24) - AI doomers
(2:34:49) - Effective altruism
(2:41:18) - Day in the life
(2:47:45) - Identity
(2:50:35) - Advice for young people
(2:52:37) - Mortality
(2:56:20) - Meaning of life

Transcript

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0:00.0

The man behind the previously anonymous account based Bev Jezos on X.

0:08.0

These two identities were merged by a doxing article in Forbes titled Who Is based Befjezos, the leader of the

0:17.0

Tech elite's EAC movement.

0:20.1

So let me describe these two identities that coexist in the mind of one human.

0:26.3

Identity number one, Giam, is a physicist, applied mathematician, and quantum machine learning

0:31.9

research or an engineer receiving his PhD in

0:34.9

quantum machine learning working at Google and quantum computing and finally launching

0:39.7

his own company called Extropic that seeks to build physics-based computing hardware for generative AI.

0:46.4

Identity number two, Bev Jazels on X, is the creator of the effective acceleration

0:53.6

to the movement often abbreviated as EAC.

0:58.0

That advocates for propelling rapid technological progress

1:01.1

as the ethically optimal course of action for humanity.

1:04.6

For example, its proponents believe that progress in AI is a great social equalizer, which should

1:11.6

be pushed forward.

1:13.3

EAC followers see themselves as a counterweight to the cautious view that AI is highly unpredictable,

1:20.1

potentially dangerous, and needs to be regulated.

1:23.0

They often give their opponents the labels of

1:26.0

doomers or desells, short for desceleration.

1:31.0

As Beth himself put it, Yack is a memetic optimism virus.

1:36.5

The style of communication of this movement leans always toward the memes and the

1:42.1

lolls, but there is an intellectual foundation that we

1:46.6

explore in this conversation.

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