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The Game Changing Attorney Podcast with Michael Mogill

407. AMMA — Why Playing It Safe Is the Most Dangerous Strategy

The Game Changing Attorney Podcast with Michael Mogill

Michael Mogill

Entrepreneurship, Management, Marketing, Business

5.0539 Ratings

🗓️ 16 October 2025

⏱️ 20 minutes

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Summary

What if the only thing standing between you and the next level is the courage to take one more risk? In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill and Jessica Mogill confront the real drivers behind success, risk, and sacrifice. As the 2025 Game Changers Summit approaches, they explore why some firm owners seem lucky while others stay stuck, and what it actually means to bet on yourself when the outcome is uncertain. This episode challenges every assumption about safety, comfort, and what it takes to build something truly exceptional. Here’s what you’ll learn: Why the firms that appear lucky are often the ones making the most courageous long-term bets How to break free from herd mentality and stand out in even the most competitive markets What it takes to achieve exceptional results without waiting for perfect timing or permission If you are ready to stop playing it safe, this episode will show you what happens when you finally bet on yourself. ---- 01:52 – How the Game Changers Summit began and grew from 100 to 500 attendees 02:55 – The evolution of the Summit into a members-only, sold-out experience 04:08 – Why keeping speakers secret creates a one-of-a-kind experience for Crisp Coach members 06:25 – Is success really about luck, or is it about courage and risk? 09:59 – The habits and reinvestment mindset that separate nine-figure firms from everyone else 12:45 – Why following the herd keeps your firm invisible in a crowded market 13:31 – How to differentiate and dominate without competing on the same message as everyone else 16:47 – What exceptional results really cost and why most people are not willing to pay the price ---- Links & Resources: Game Changers Summit Crisp Coach Program David Goggins Mercedes-Benz Stadium ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 405. AMMA — What it Takes to 10x Everything 344. Scott Monge. Beyond the Billboards: Crafting a Standout Legal Brand 305. John Morgan — Luck, Hustle, and the Art of Disruption: Building America's Largest Law Firm

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0:00.0

When is the last time you did something for the first time? And when is the last time

0:05.4

you did something that made you uncomfortable? And if everything you're doing has to have some

0:09.3

guarantee of a payoff, then it's also going to have limited upside. I'm Michael Logel, founder and CEO of Crisp, the nation's number one law from growth company.

0:23.6

I've built my business through practice, not theory.

0:26.6

Crisp started with just $500 to my name and has grown to over eight figures in revenue over the last few years,

0:31.6

earning a spot on the Inc 500 list of the fastest growing private companies in America.

0:36.6

Our approach has been to take everything we've learned about generating massive growth

0:40.0

within our own organization and help the country's most ambitious and committed law

0:43.8

from owners do the same for theirs.

0:45.7

In each episode of this podcast, I sit down with innovative market leaders from the legal

0:49.4

industry and beyond to learn from those who thrive in the face of adversity, challenge

0:53.7

the status quo,

0:54.7

and define what it means to be a true game changer.

0:58.3

This is Jessica, head of coaching strategy at Chris, and today we're flipping the script

1:02.7

for another special edition episode to get Michael's take on, the mindset shifts that make

1:07.8

unattainable results achievable, the moves that break you out of the

1:11.5

mid-market commodity trap, and how to achieve exceptional outcomes with systems, not exhaustion.

1:17.9

If one person has to basically undergo a tremendous amount of sacrifice and has a tremendous

1:24.9

amount of trade-offs and another person doesn't have to do any of those sacrifices or tradeoffs

1:29.4

and they could achieve the same outcome,

1:31.2

then what would be the reason for making the sacrifices in the tradeoffs?

1:35.5

That's coming up on the Game Changing Attorney podcast.

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