Everybody listening to You've been heard.

We're talking with Michael Murray today.

And we're supposed to be talking about scaling IT in highly regulated industries without disrupting operations or compliance.

Okay, what gets you so excited about IT?

What do you really love about it?

Let's just start with that.

I mean, what's like the thing that fires you up most about your role and then we'll

get to something important.

I've worked in a lot of industries, right?

So, yeah, I came out of college.

I did civil engineering in Cork in Ireland.

Came out of college and worked for a small IT startup, small consultancy software development.

Worked for two absolutely fantastic guys, the founders, Seamus and Teddy, who really gave me a great

grounding. Like, I was employee number four. And that gave me a huge grounding. Like I was employee number four.

And I gave me a huge insight into the sort of stresses and successes from a small IT company.

And they're still in business, both still very well respected and successful.

Please tell me what that was.

So the name of the company was client solutions.

No, I mean, like, what was so, you said it was really like your employee number four,

you really got some great insight, mentoring.

What's like the first thing that comes to mind that was like the big learnings?

The big learnings really understand your problem, right, and understand the solutions that you're offering.

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