In this episode, to celebrate Katie Thurston’s promotion to the role of main character in this season of The Bachelorette, Erin joins us as we snake draft the female supporting characters who don’t get their due. We discuss which ladies are done dirty by the films they’re in, which supporting characters got a glow-up, and who’s superior in High School Musical: Gabriella or Sharpay.

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• Sidekick glow ups: Black Widow (coming July 9), Cruella (Disney+ Premiere Access) 
• Reminder: What is a snake draft and how does it work? 
• People mentioned: Vivica A. Fox (Jasmine in Independence Day) | Katie Holmes (Rachel Dawes in Batman Begins) | Maggie Gyllenhaal (Rachel Dawes in The Dark Knight) | Thandiwe Newton (Mission: Impossible II) | Michelle Monahan (Mission Impossible series) | Kourtney Kardashian (see also: Poosh) | Nabiyah Be (Linda in Black Panther) | Joan Cusack (Jessie in the Toy Story 2 et al) | Vanessa Hudgens (Gabriella in the High School Musical original series) | Whoopi Goldberg (Oda Mae in Ghost) | Robin Wright (Buttercup in The Princess Bride, Jenny in Forrest Gump) | Liv Tyler, Cate Blanchett, and Kate from Lost (Arwen, Galadriel, Tauriel in the LOTR series), Keirra Knightly, Natalie Portman (Garden State- see also: Garden State soundtrack)
• Relevant rabbit trails: An Oral History of Independence Day, movie mentioned by Erin- Son of Rambow, The Real-World Consequences of the Manic Pixie Dream Girl Cliché (via The Atlantic), Sharpay is the Victim (archived Twitter thread via Buzzfeed)

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