Hello, I'm currently out of office.

An article I read recently said we're more relaxed and more productive after a good break.

So, I've gone to Barbados for a month for science.

Yours, Toby.

Take your holiday as seriously as British Airways holidays take your holiday.

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Give a very warm welcome to Kate Forbes.

Thank you. warm welcome to Kate Forbes.

Hello.

Hello Kate. It's lovely to have you here. But what I have learned about you already is that you are an enormous crawler when it comes to Ian Dale, aren't you?

Talk about trying to get on his good side.

Indeed.

Tell us what you said the first time you ever met him. Well, I have to say that the first time we spoke, I was still a rising star in the SMP during the leadership contest.

And now we speak again, and I'm nothing but an also ran.

I don't know if that's cause.

I'm not sure about that.

We're going to come back to that one.

I don't know if that's cause and effect, but here we are.

No, I think last time I spoke to you, I said, I wasn't the fan.

My husband was, and he's here today. Yeah, we were doing

hustings, weren't we, in Glasgow. And with you, Ash Riegan and Hamza Yusuf, and we had never met

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