406. Fighting the War Within – Ukraine’s Anti-Corruption Battle
Battleground
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4.5 • 824 Ratings
🗓️ 2 June 2026
⏱️ 56 minutes
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Summary
As the brutal conflict continues, Ukraine is fighting a war on multiple fronts—not just in the trenches, but internally within the corridors of power against a long-standing weapon of Kremlin information warfare: the accusation of irredeemable corruption.
In this episode, hosts Saul David and Julius Strauss sit down in Kyiv with Andrii Borovyk, the executive director of Transparency International Ukraine, for a brutally honest assessment of where the country stands today. Borovyk pulls back the curtain on the Global Corruption Perception Index, exploring how Ukraine remarkably managed to stabilize and even improve its score during wartime—a feat virtually unheard of for a nation in conflict.
The conversation dives deep into the high-stakes friction between wartime efficiency and democratic transparency, covering:
The Reality of the Index: Exactly where Ukraine sits globally, how its score compares to neighbours like Hungary and Slovakia, and why the metric is about external perception rather than a direct measurement of ground-level corruption.
The High-Stakes U-Turn: The dramatic, late-night political maneuvering surrounding a controversial bill aimed at bringing anti-corruption agencies under political control, the ensuing public protests, and the resulting erosion of international trust.
Watchdogging under Fire: How Transparency International Ukraine operates on the policy and legislative levels, saves millions for the state budget through public procurement monitoring, and the institutional distrust surrounding agencies like the State Bureau of Investigations.
The Leadership Report Card: A candid evaluation of Ukrainian leadership—from Yanukovych to Poroshenko and Zelenskyy—in their historical and current fights against corruption.
The Path Forward: The heavy influence of international leverage (like the EU and IMF) on pushing reforms forward, and a sobering look at Ukraine's post-war future, demographic challenges, and shifting immigration needs.
Julius Strauss writes the blog Back from the Front and also owns and runs Wild Bear Lodge, a bear-viewing lodge, in Canada. Check out both in the links below:
Substack: https://backfromthefront.substack.com/
Wild Bear Lodge: https://wildbearlodge.ca/
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome back to Battleground Ukraine with me Saul David and Julius Strauss. |
| 0:17.6 | As this brutal conflict continues, the war is being fought on many fronts, not just in the |
| 0:22.7 | trenches of the Dombas or against Russian missile attacks, but internally in the corridors of power. |
| 0:28.9 | For years, one of the most potent weapons the Kremlin has wielded in its information warfare is the |
| 0:34.4 | accusation that Ukraine is fundamentally, irredeemably corrupt. |
| 0:39.0 | But what is the reality on the ground? And how does a nation fight an existential war for survival |
| 0:44.4 | while simultaneously building the rule of law? Today, we are bringing you a fascinating, |
| 0:49.3 | wide-ranging interview we did in Kiev with Andrei Borovic, the executive director of Transparency International |
| 0:55.8 | Ukraine. In this episode, Borovic pulls back the curtain on Ukraine's standing in the Global |
| 1:01.4 | Corruption Perception Index. He shares how Ukraine has remarkably managed to stabilize and even |
| 1:07.8 | improve its score during wartime, a feat almost unheard of for a country in conflict. |
| 1:13.7 | But he doesn't pull any punches. From the dramatic late-night political maneuvering surrounding |
| 1:18.8 | anti-corruption agencies to the urgent need for reforming the State Bureau of Investigation, |
| 1:25.1 | Borovic offers a brutally honest assessment of where Ukraine stands, |
| 1:29.0 | the pressure coming from the European Union, and the friction between wartime efficiency |
| 1:33.6 | and democratic transparency. We started the interview by asking Andre about Transparency |
| 1:39.4 | International's annual Globe League table and exactly where Ukraine sits on that index today. |
| 1:46.6 | Where is Ukraine on that index right now? |
| 1:50.4 | Last year, we as a country received 36 points out of 100. |
| 1:55.6 | For understanding, zero means that there is only corruption, there is no state. |
| 1:59.9 | 100, there is no corruption at all. |
| 2:01.9 | Right. |
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