#405: The Shenandoah Murders - Part 2
Real Crime Profile
Real Crime Profile / Wondery
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🗓️ 2 November 2022
⏱️ 42 minutes
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Summary
We continue our conversation with Kathryn Miles about her book “Trailed: One woman’s quest to solve the Shenandoah murders” about the murders of Lollie Winans and Julie Williams in Shenandoah National Park in May of 1996. We start by talking about the FBI’s response to the case and how they profiled the possible murderer. We discuss Darrell David Rice who was law enforcement’s prime suspect in the case, the lengths they went to find evidence connecting him and if Kathryn agrees based on her research that he should have been the focus at all.
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| 0:00.0 | After hearing the horrible news, Tom visited the site where his daughter was killed. |
| 0:05.0 | He says it was a beautiful area out east and that the tragedy tainted a trunk. |
| 0:10.0 | Part of that, I did want to see it was important to me to see where she died. |
| 0:17.0 | And so, you know, I was in the park, stayed in the park. |
| 0:24.0 | And one of the cabins there had access to all the people in the park that knew Julie and that also knew her story. |
| 0:35.0 | A beautiful little area down by a stream and that's where she died. |
| 0:42.0 | Over 20 years later, Tom says he still hopes answers enclosure are found. |
| 0:47.0 | He also hopes the community will continue to talk about the good memories that Julie left behind. |
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| 1:29.0 | Hello and welcome to real crime profile. I'm Lisa Zambelle, casting director and I have a real interest in real crime and these amazing minds that try so hard to solve these cold cases. |
| 1:41.0 | And I'm Laura Richards, criminal behavior whanellist, former new Scotland yard, founder of Paladin National Stalking Advocacy Service and host of the podcast crime analyst. |
| 1:49.0 | And I'm Jim Clemente, retired FBI profile reformer, and actually prosecutor and host of the podcast best case worst case. |
| 1:56.0 | And we're very happy to be rejoined by a very special guest. |
| 2:00.0 | Hi, I'm Catherine Miles. I'm an investigative journalist and the author of trail, one woman's quest to solve the Shenandoah murders. |
| 2:06.0 | Now, one interesting connection, Catherine, you actually heard our interview with Bill Thomas. |
| 2:11.0 | Is that right? And you heard listen to real crime profile and listen to our interview with with Bill and we're curious about real crime profile and our thoughts and our analysis. |
| 2:21.0 | So we just had to get you on to talk about your book. |
| 2:24.0 | Oh, no, seriously, I have been listening to your podcast for almost as long as it's existed. |
| 2:29.0 | And no, I obviously took particular interest in the interviews that you did with Bill Thomas and with the colonial parkway murders, which, you know, as we talked about before, I think have some real similarities that are worth considering with these cases. |
| 2:42.0 | Absolutely. Well, thank you for coming on. Let's dive right back into it. |
| 2:46.0 | Well, let's talk a little bit about the FBI's involvement, Jim. |
| 2:51.0 | Because, you know, the FBI put out a strongly worded press release, didn't they? |
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