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Music Welcome to Bettercast, Saul, the officially unofficial podcast for Better Call Saul on AMC.

I'm Jim.

I'm Aaron.

And today we're here to talk about season four, episode five, titled Quite a Ride.

I think Francesca would agree.

What did you think of this episode?

Hey, Ron.

I thought it was real good.

I, you know, I thought I was really good on the instant take.

And I had questions about like, oh, I wonder why they dismiss this French guy versus the German guy.

And on second watch and reading other people's opinions, I thought that what Vince was doing was real clever.

I also had a couple.

I also had some really smart feedback about my criticisms of the way they're dealing with therapy on the show.

One from a licensed family and marital therapists

which we'll be talking about in the feedback

that's kind of like quelled some of those criticisms

so I thought it's great

and it's also a nice reminder that yes

Jimmy McGill and Kim Wexler

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