Coming up on the Jordan Harbinger Show.

When you're examining any kind of device, whether it's an ATM, whether it's a life support system or voting machine,

you always find vulnerabilities.

But how safe you are is how the company reacts.

If the company says, oh my God, help us.

Let us fix this problem.

Now you know this is in a good hands.

If the company goes, we are going to sue you and try to stop this message.

Now you know nothing gets fixed.

And the culture is the one which is causing all the trouble because you are not trying to fix the problem.

Welcome to the show. I'm Jordan Harbinger.

On the Jordan Harbinger Show, we decode the stories, secrets and skills of the world's most fascinating people.

If you're new to the show, we have in-depth conversations with people at the top of their game.

Astronauts and entrepreneurs, spies and psychologists, even the occasional four-star general,

each show turns our guests wisdom into practical advice that you can use to build deeper understanding of how the world works

and become a better critical thinker.

Today's guest is an amazing hacker that you've probably never heard of.

This guy's a genius and we're lucky he's on our side.

He memorized all the country flags at age three and by age 12, he was programming mainframe computers.

How many flags do you know? Think about it. That's what I thought.

Today we're talking about election security.

Voting is important. We need regular and peaceful transfer of power or we get discontent and revolutions instead.

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