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I'm Jim.

I'm Aaron.

And today we're here to talk about season four, episode four, titled Talk.

That's exactly what we're going to do you wanted us

to talk we talked uh what did you think of this episode i think my feelings really haven't

moderated or haven't really changed much since the instant talk podcast which was this episode

i mean i'm always talking about this show having a stately pace.

It really takes its time when it has things to say even,

developing those things.

And it kind of has its own pace and flow.

But when there's not a lot of things happening,

or when it's kind of nebulous what you're supposed to be making of the things happening, it can sometimes, to me, come across as frustrating.

And every single time I say that, people get up in arms.

But, I mean, I guess the alternative would just be like what do you think it's excellent another excellent episode of better call saw um i think better call saw is at a run

of three excellent episodes to start and this was just okay um i there i made some suggestions

on what i thought could have maybe improved things by like going a little gonzo and the cousins escapades.

Got some feedback on that. But I just think it's a, it's a episode that's trying to do a lot of deep character work and it's characteristic stately pace.

And, you know, because of that, it's, it's a little mysterious and I'm a little impatient to get to the next stuff.

What'd you think?

Yeah, I felt the same way.

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