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404 - RNDC Responds To Sazerac's Lawsuit and When Will We See More Anti-Counterfeit Seals? on Bourbon Community Roundtable #79

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🗓️ 6 April 2023

⏱️ 64 minutes

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It's everyone's monthly favorite, the bourbon community roundtable where we invite some of the brightest minds in bourbon media to come on and go deep on some topics. And up first is the story that keeps on giving. Earlier this year Sazerac came out of the gate putting a $38.6M lawsuit in front of Republic National Distributing Company (known as RNDC). Now here we are a few weeks later and we get RNDC's response where they are countersuing for Sazerac's attempts at undermining the three-tier system and claiming over $10M in damages. In the second half of the show we dig into the increase of counterfeit bourbon bottles on the market and these bottles aren't even super rare. We're talking Four Roses Single Barrels and Weller Full Proof. Should distilleries step up and have more tamper-proof seals or is this a buyer beware type of situation? We've said it a million times on the show before, if you want to help combat the spread of these fakes, throw away your bottles by putting sharpie on the label or even go as far as breaking them. Don't be that person selling empties on eBay. Show Notes: Above the Char with Fred Minnick (@fredminnick) talks about single barrel programs. What impact will the Sazerac/RNDC lawsuit have on the bourbon industry? When will we see more anti-counterfeit seals? Who is responsible for preventing counterfeits? @breakingbourbon @fredminnick @drinkseelbachs @bourbonr @sippncorn Support this podcast on Patreon

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0:00.0

Did we lose Kenny?

0:01.5

Kenny, you broke up for a second.

0:02.9

Oh, can you hear me now?

0:04.0

Hey, Kenny, your audio is kind of bad.

0:05.7

So if you could just drop off real quick and come back.

0:08.7

Hey, Ryan, what's our protocol there if we lose Kenny?

0:12.4

What do we do?

0:13.1

Is there a Google Doc somewhere?

0:36.2

Yeah. This is Bourbon Pursuit, the official podcast of Bourbon, bringing to you the best in news, reviews, and interviews with people making the bourbon whiskey industry happen.

0:38.0

And I'm one of your hosts, Kenny Coleman. And it's everyone's monthly favorite. It's the bourbon whiskey industry happen. And I'm one of your hosts, Kenny Coleman.

0:40.3

And it's everyone's monthly favorite.

0:42.2

It's the bourbon community roundtable.

0:45.6

And this is where we invite some of the brightest minds in bourbon media to come on.

0:47.2

We go deep on a few topics.

0:50.7

And the first one, well, it's the story that just keeps on giving.

0:56.1

Earlier this year, Sazirac came out of the gate putting a $38.6 million lawsuit in front of Republic National Distributing Company, otherwise we all know as R&C. And now here we are

1:01.7

a few weeks later, and we get R&C's response, where they are countersuing for Sazerck's attempts

1:07.1

of what they call undermining the three-tier system and they're claiming over

1:10.9

$10 million in damages. And in the second half of the show, we dig into another topic of what

1:15.8

we've been seeing is that the increase of counterfeit bourbon bottles. And these aren't even

1:20.3

super rare bottles. I mean, we're talking four rows of single barrels and well are foolproof.

1:25.2

So we ask ourselves and we ask the roundtable, should distillery step up and have more tamper-proof seals?

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