#403 - “They’re GHOSTS!” - Cartel Sheriff on Sinaloa’s Tunnels, Secret Scouts & El ChapO

Julian Dorey Podcast

Julian Dorey

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4.6 • 906 Ratings

🗓️ 31 March 2026

⏱️ 148 minutes

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0:37.5	You were just saying off-camera something about Sheriff Mark Lamb, who you were, to be clear, you were the number two with him for a long time.
0:37.8	Right, right.
0:42.7	So Mark got elected in 2016, took office January 2017.
0:46.2	And I was a lieutenant when he got elected.
0:49.7	And then he offered me to be his ex-o, his number two.
0:52.6	And so 2017, I moved up into that position.
1:01.9	So from 2017 through 25, no, 24, December 31st of 24 was his last day in office.
1:03.9	So for those eight years, I was his number two.
1:07.5	The new sheriff that got elected kept me as his number two.
1:09.9	And I stayed in that position until May.
1:12.0	And then I moved on to be the chief of my current agency. But you were just saying Mark Lamb was in, he was in Panama when I got taken
1:17.5	over? So we were talking about the, we were talking about the Venezuela thing. And I said, hey,
1:21.7	you know, Mark was in Panama when it got overrun or when it got taken back, essentially. And so he had been living down there and he tells the story.
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