I had the privilege of talking today to Governor Ron Desantis who's running for

president on the Republican slate. I tried to tilt the discussion more towards

the personal. My impression with Governor Desantis is that he's established

himself already as a credible policy advocate and a credible administrator, and that's no small deal.

And also was someone who's willing and able to take the flock associated with

making difficult political decisions but I had the sense that I didn't really

know him personally and I believe that that's a sense that's shared by many people.

And so a lot of what we did with the conversation today

was to get to know Governor Desantis at a personal level.

And so I hope that all of you who are watching and listening find that useful and interesting as I did.

So Governor Desantis, we met, I think it was probably more than a year ago at the governor's mansion.

Now we had bumped into each other a couple of times

at some different speaking events,

but never really had a chance to sit down and talk.

And we got to know each other a little bit over breakfast you know and I was I was struck by how

welcoming the event was and how conversational our discussion became quite rapidly.

And you know, I thought I might walk down that road a little bit farther today.

You've established a good reputation or perhaps a stellar reputation already on the policy side and with regards to general administrative competence, but it's my sense at least to some degree that people don't know you as well as they might and

and so I thought we might and that goes for me as well and so I thought we

might try to redress that today so that's what I'm going to aim at and we'll take forays off into the

philosophical and political direction from that but that's where we'll focus.

So the first thing I'd like to know and to share with everyone who's watching and listening is,

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