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The Symbolic World

402 - Universal History - Dcn. Seraphim Rohlin - The Spirits Beneath America: Fairies and Founding Fathers

The Symbolic World

Jonathan Pageau

Religion & Spirituality, Society & Culture, Education

4.8824 Ratings

🗓️ 19 July 2025

⏱️ 96 minutes

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Summary

In this episode of Universal History, I sit down with Deacon Seraphim (Richard Rohlin) on the 4th of July to explore the topic of fairies and titular spirits, especially as it relates to the US. We discuss America’s founding, the myth of Oedipus, heroes and monsters, boundaries of identity, stories of water spirits and crossing into territories, all to ask the question of whether fairies can be saved. As always, we’re weaving together myth, symbolism, and cultural insight to help reveal the patterns behind the stories that shape our world.

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Timestamps:
00:00 - Coming up
01:45 - Intro music
02:12 - Introduction
04:22 - Titular spirits
10:03 - Oedipus: From the Bronze age
16:47 - A daemon / titular spirit
18:40 - Heroes becoming spirits
19:54 - The encounter with the Sphinx
21:46 - Killing a monsters
26:41 - Purification and the furies
31:43 - Understanding: Christ the Key
39:37 - America
46:23 - What are fairies
53:15 - Artifacts
58:08 - Magic
01:00:38 - 3 Stories about faeries
01:01:31 - Story 1
01:06:30 - Tying it in with St. Christopher
01:07:25 - Story 2
01:11:32 - Commentary
01:18:02 - Story 3
01:27:08 - American aboriginals

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Transcript

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0:00.0

The reason why, for example, even in the kind of early Christian tradition or the late Jewish tradition, this idea that the demons are the spirits of the Nephilim, right, of the great men before the flood, this is exactly what you're saying. It's exactly what you're saying is that there are these principalities, these great men of old,

0:25.6

that were kings and great men before our world.

0:29.6

And they still linger and they still have influence, but they're not, they're disconnected

0:36.6

from the hierarchy right now.

0:39.6

You know, and that's what happens in, not just in our mythologies, but it's also the way

0:45.4

that the ancient mythologies are set up, which is that once, you know, once Zeus has become

0:50.8

the king of the gods, then the titans are now a bunch of monstrous demons that

0:55.9

are dangerous and, you know, live on the outskirts of the world.

1:00.4

All these different levels, this is also how it functions.

1:02.7

And you can understand that there are memories that participate in your story, that in

1:08.4

your family story, in everything, that are fragments of worlds before story, that in your family story, in everything that are fragments of worlds

1:13.6

before you, that you don't completely understand, but that nonetheless are part of your world,

1:20.6

right?

1:21.6

Ways of doing things that your mother does, that if you asked her why she does them, you don't

1:26.6

know, she doesn't know why she does them. Like you said, this is just how we do things, Jonathan. I don't know what it is, but it's connected to some ancient pattern that no longer has meaning, but is still influencing you, right? And so we're not, this is not just woo. Like, there is a woo aspect of what we're saying. But this is, we're actually talking about how the world kind of plays itself out.

2:00.2

This is Jonathan Pejot. Welcome to the symbolic world.

2:03.6

Hello, everyone. I'm here with the Deacon Seraphim. Richard Roland, we're going to start this way. He is the same person. He is now a Deacon and he dresses like a Deacon. He's got a nice haircut too. It seems like you've got a better haircut since you're a Deacon. Is that possible? I actually haven't cut my hair since I was made a Deacon. I just had to put a bunch of stuff in it to make it all lay down because otherwise it poofs.

2:40.3

Are you going to have the ponytail at some point?

2:44.1

Seems to be the direction of things are going, Jonathan.

2:46.7

All right.

2:47.5

All right.

2:48.0

I think there's a, I think there's, you know, one of my, my dear beloved, now brothers in the Lord, a wonderful

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