What's up? Nick Loper here. Welcome to the Side Hustle Show because busy does not equal

effective. We're all dealt 24 hours in a day and I believe how you spend that time or maybe rather how you

invest it should give you some sort of return and that could be a monetary

return sure but it could also be a return in personal satisfaction or the impact that you have on others.

Today I want to introduce a productivity framework I've been working on that I'm calling the

productivity pyramid and like most frameworks it's a work in progress but

here's how it shapes up you can imagine a pyramid on a piece of paper with I've got four steps

on this pyramid or four levels. The foundation of this

pyramid is your vision or your goals like what do you want to accomplish? Stacked

on top of that are the projects that are going to be needed to help realize those

goals. Above that I have the tasks that you need to accomplish those projects and

finally I have the kind of like tools and tactics inside of those tasks like how are you

actually getting the work done what tools are using to get the work done.

So I want to use that as a framework for this conversation and to help me talk through this today is

Kate Ericsson from E.O Fire. Kate is a master of systems and over the last several years has helped grow EOfire.com into a multi-million dollar operation.

Her new podcast is Ditch Busy, which is all about helping you take back control of your time.

Kate, welcome to the Side Hustle Show.

Nick, thank you so much.

I'm very honored to be here.

When you shared this framework with me, I was like,

oh man, he's speaking my language. I love it.

Oh, we can geek out on this stuff for the next little bit.

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