Hello, friends. It's the way I heard it. And I'm Mike Rowe. And Chuck Klaus Myers, once again,

with me right now, just a wash or a glow in the patina of that last conversation?

I think that's a very good choice of words, a glow, I would say, in the patina.

We were talking to someone who deals in bronze, and that can't patina, can't it? See what I did?

Yes, very good. Look what you did picking up on it. Yeah. I'm fascinated by the art world in all of its

complexity, all of its nuance, all of its weird commerce, and all of the newness and the oldness and the

tradition of it and the starving artists that are out there. And it's just always been interesting

to me. And I've always wanted to talk to a truly great artist. And I think I just did.

I think that this guy, Saban Howard, who you're about to meet, has been described by

lots of people as America's Michelangelo.

And I think he is, man.

There's a lot of evidence to support that claim, I would say.

Yeah. I mean, we won't know it probably for centuries hence,

because that's kind of the way great art is.

But I think in some cases you can just leap ahead and make the assumption.

What this guy has done, Saban Howard,

is create what is probably going to be embraced as one of the most impressive bronze

monuments in the world. It is going to appear in mid-September on the National Mall. It's a commemoration

of the First World War. It's called a soldier's journey.

And to say it's ambitious is to wildly understate the facts.

38 separate sculptures, I believe, that are all next to one another, spanning 60 feet.

I think it's slightly larger than life size, if I recall.

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