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Think Again - a Big Think Podcast

40. Nikhil Goyal (Education Activist) – Mind in a Box

Think Again - a Big Think Podcast

Big Think / Panoply

Arts, Society & Culture

4.6594 Ratings

🗓️ 2 April 2016

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

Put 8 year old Donald Trump, Hillary Clinton, and Bernie Sanders together in a progressive 2nd grade classroom. What would happen?  Since the dawn of compulsory schooling America has been experimenting on young minds with pedagogies and systems of control that arguably do more to prepare kids for a life of servitude than of independent thought and civic engagement.  20 year old Nikhil Goyal, author of Schools on Trial, argues that mainstream US public schools do more harm to children than good, and that we need to rethink them from the bottom up.  Clips from comedian Paul F. Tompkins, Jesse Itzler, and Helen Fisher launch Goyal and host Jason Gots on a passionate & intense discussion that keeps coming back to our messed up education system and what we ought to do about it.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Huh, have you ever wondered what a sandwich sounds like?

0:04.3

Not much to it, is there?

0:06.2

Unless, of course, it's a Walker's sandwich.

0:10.9

Mmm, that is good.

0:12.9

Now that's what Asani should sound like.

0:15.8

Go all crisp in with walkers.

0:19.0

Delicious.

0:19.6

Hey there, I'm Jason Gots, and you're listening to Think Again, a Big Think podcast.

0:29.6

Since 2008, Big Think has been sharing big ideas and little doses from some of the most

0:34.5

creative thinkers on earth. The Think Again podcast takes us out of our comfort zone.

0:39.6

Big Things producers surprise our guests and me, your host,

0:42.5

with ideas that we're not prepared to discuss.

0:45.2

I've really been looking forward to today's conversation with Nikiel Goil.

0:49.7

He's a journalist fighting not so much for education reform as for an education revolution.

0:56.0

At 20 years old, he's the author of Schools on Trial, How Freedom and Creativity Can Fix

1:01.5

Our Educational Malpractice.

1:03.7

He's been invited to speak at Google, Stanford, Cambridge University, the Clinton Global

1:08.1

Initiative, and more about his contention that our current public

1:11.9

schools are systemically harmful to children and his ideas for what to do about it.

1:17.3

Welcome to think again, Nikiel.

1:18.7

Thanks for having me.

1:19.9

Yeah, I honestly have really been looking forward to this. I think a lot about education.

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