Hello, welcome to the podcast, it is Owen Jones here. Today, knowing me crying, big

impact on me, I had to say, as a teenager, as a, as a lost lefty in the wilderness,

she was something of a life raft. One of the people who inspired me to write, she's

got a lot to answer for, and we speak about a huge amount, about what's going on in

the United States, about the climate emergency, about what the pandemic means, about big

tech, what's going on in India at the moment. We talk about a real range of stuff from one

of the leading progressive writers and authors on the face of the earth, so very lucky to

have her. Usually a bit of housekeeping, please do support us if you can, as we to continue

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wider listenership. Another than that, there's not much more for me to say, so let's hand

it over to Naomi Klein. Naomi Klein doesn't need an introduction. I'm not going to do the,

she doesn't need an introduction, but now I'm going to introduce her. I'm just not going

to introduce her. Everyone knows who she is, you read the books, you read her articles,

you've seen her, countless things. Maybe just clarify that I didn't write the beauty

myth that I don't believe chemtrails or government conspiracy. I think over this real, I think

Bill Gates is a terrible guy, but not because he's implanting things into us through vaccine,

but because he's destroying education and agriculture. Anyway, that Naomi, that's all,

that's all the introduction I need. That's what you know that Naomi. She's not the

Naomi who's going, I'm blowing up 5G masks or whatever, whatever the other Naomi is up

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