40: Making machines learn language - Interview with Janelle Shane

Lingthusiasm - A podcast that's enthusiastic about linguistics

Gretchen McCulloch and Lauren Gawne

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4.8 • 743 Ratings

🗓️ 17 January 2020

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

If you feed a computer enough ice cream flavours or pictures annotated with whether they contain giraffes, the hope is that the computer may eventually learn how to do these things for itself: to generate new potential ice cream flavours or identify the giraffehood status of new photographs. But it’s not necessarily that easy, and the mistakes that machines make when doing relatively silly tasks like ice cream naming or giraffe identification can illuminate how artificial intelligence works when doing more serious tasks as well. In this episode, your hosts Gretchen McCulloch and Lauren Gawne interview Dr Janelle Shane, author of You Look Like A Thing And I Love You and person who makes AI do delightfully weird experiments on her blog and twitter feed. We talk about how AI “sees” language, what the process of creating AI humour is like (hint: it needs a lot of human help to curate the best examples), and ethical issues around trusting algorithms. Finally, Janelle helped us turn one of the big neural nets on our own 70+ transcripts of Lingthusiasm episodes, to find out what Lingthusiasm would sound like if Lauren and Gretchen were replaced by robots! This part got so long and funny that we made it into a whole episode on its own, which is technically the February bonus episode, but we didn’t want to make you wait to hear it, so we’ve made it available right now! This bonus episode includes a more detailed walkthrough with Janelle of how she generated the Robo-Lingthusiasm transcripts, and live-action reading of some of our favourite Robo-Lauren and Robo-Gretchen moments. Support Lingthusiasm on Patreon to gain access to the Robo-Lingthusiasm episode and 35 previous bonus episodes. patreon.com/lingthusiasm Also for our patrons, we’ve made a Lingthusiasm Discord server – a private chatroom for Lingthusiasm patrons! Chat about the latest Lingthusiasm episode, share other interesting linguistics links, and geek out with other linguistics fans. (We even made a channel where you can practice typing in the International Phonetic Alphabet, if that appeals to you!) To see the links mentioned in this episode, check out the shownotes page at https://lingthusiasm.com/post/190298658151/lingthusiasm-episode-40-making-machines-learn

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0:00.0	Welcome to Enthusiasm, a podcast that's enthusiastic about linguistics.
0:21.5	I'm Lauren Gorn.
0:22.8	And I'm Gretchen McCulloch.
0:24.0	And today, we're getting enthusiastic about artificial intelligence, teaching computers language,
0:29.3	with special guest, Dr. Janelle Shane, who runs the blog AI Weirdness.com and is the author of You Look Like a Thing and I Love You, which is a fun new book about AI.
0:38.8	But first, we have some announcements.
0:41.6	It's a new year and we have new big exciting plans for the Linkthusiasm Patreon page.
0:47.8	We are introducing a Discord, which is an online chat space for patrons to share their Lengthusiasm with their
0:57.5	fellow Linguists. We've heard from a lot of you that you got into Linguistics because of
1:03.3	linguism, or it reawakened your memories of how much you like linguistics because you
1:07.8	did some courses on it way back when. And now you wish you could
1:11.3	talk about linguistics more. So we're giving you a space where you can talk about linguistics,
1:16.2	share your interesting linguistics links that you come across, talk about them in a space with
1:20.9	other link enthusiasm fans. We're really excited to see what this community becomes. It's a bit of an
1:26.4	experiment, but we think it'll
1:27.9	be really fun to do. So you can join the Patreon at the tier where you get bonus episodes as well,
1:33.5	and you also have a space to talk about those bonus episodes and the regular lengthusiasm episodes
1:37.9	and any other linguistics things you want to talk about. We want to see more linkthusiasm,
1:43.3	not just online, but also on all kinds of
1:47.7	things, which is why we are also sending stickers over the next few months to patrons at the
1:53.3	Lingfabet tier. So patrons who are at that tier for three months or more will get stickers that
1:58.8	say Lingthusiast on them.
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