We need to be thinking more about health span rather than lifespan.

We need to be trying to prevent disease rather than cure disease.

And in this podcast, I'm talking with Leslie Kenny about longevity, about her journey

of being diagnosed with an autoimmune disease, that she actually cured herself rather than

taking medications that were suggested to her.

So it's a great conversation that we can all learn from as well.

So there's so much to talk about.

I've known you for a little while, but I just love the work that you do

because you're coming from a scientist, a patient advocate, a woman,

someone who's inquisitive and just wants to learn more.

And that's great, isn't it? Yeah, well, I love what I do. And I think the body is such a mysterious,

but beautiful, complex guardian. And if we treat it right, we will be rewarded with a long, healthy, vibrant life.

But if we forget that we are guardians of our bodies, we have the flip side, which is if we're not supporting it with the things it needs and we're overburdening it with toxins or stress, then unfortunately we have to bear the consequences.

Luckily, the body is wonderfully resilient and tapping into that resilience and showing people

they have more power than they think and they can actually bring their bodies back online, back to balance to homeostasis,

that's my raison debt. And also the body's very repairing as well. And, you know, so many of us,

myself included, take our health for granted. And it's not until we're ill that we realize

how fragile our health is. And I know that I've been ill. I've

had pancreatitis. I've had sepsis. I've had migraines that I still have that I can't control.

And, you know, sometimes if you do something that's, you know, isn't right and you have a

consequence, that's fine. But when you're otherwise healthy and something happens, it can be really difficult.

But the other thing that frustrates me every day in my work is that when you're not listened to

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