40 FOR 40: The 2025 Armed Forces Bowl

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🗓️ 1 January 2026

⏱️ 4 minutes

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WWWWWWWWELCOME to the return of 40 For 40, our bowl preview series where every bowl game gets its own episode and each episode is exactly as long as that game deserves.
Who decides what “deserves” means? We do! Thank you for asking
This episode was produced by Michael Ray Surber
Fullcast theme 40 For 40 intro arranged and performed by Russell Powell
Fullcast theme 40 For 40 outro arranged and performed by Matt
DID YOU KNOW: Spencer and Holly write Channel 6, a year-round newsletter that is mostly about football, until it’s not
Before the world ends (again), treat yourself to Jason’s critically praised novel and other work
Travel in your mind palace to Phantom Island, Ryan’s new show with Steven Godfrey, which is not a college football show because another simply cannot exist
Check out Surber’s band Killer Antz and his new show Podcasterino

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0:00.0	Welcome to
0:14.4	Folks, as always, after a rowdy time in New Orleans, the next morning is going to feel pretty fucking weird.
0:22.6	Yes, the game kicks off at one Eastern, but it is going to feel like a bright, harsh, harsh morning when five and seven rice and six and six Texas State do battle.
0:33.1	Texas State a massive favorite in the Armed Forces Bowl.
0:37.1	Yeah, this is the follow-up because, you know,
0:39.4	this sport is blasphemous and refuses to just end itself on New Year's Day. There will always be
0:44.6	just detritus hanging around even in the middle of the playoff. Like, I say this every year,
0:52.1	but I do really like that any casual observers who assumes that
0:55.3	the more important games are at the end will be led to believe that, like, okay, that this playoff game's pretty big, but, well, we better tune in for Rice, Texas State. That must be a really big deal. Really, I don't have anything at all to say about this game, but the thing I wanted to look up that I didn't, but we can look up now and spend anywhere between one second and one hour on is if the Armed Forces Bowl and the Military Bowl went to war, who would win?
1:18.6	I'll open this up for discussion first.
1:22.7	So you mean the game, or do you mean the two teams and the game forming armies?
1:27.2	Not the teams, not the teams.
1:28.0	The bowls themselves.
1:29.5	Like, I think first you're going to lean toward, well, Annapolis Navy, but keep in mind, Lockheed Martin's on the other end. I got to, I got to give it to Lockheed. You know, brother, I'm not fed against Lucky Martin. because we're not all sure what they got cooking in there at this time.
1:43.5	The sponsors are a big factor because the military bowl is sponsored by the bowling industry.
1:49.9	Squaring off against Lockheed Martin.
1:52.9	Military bowl is 17 years old, whereas the Armed Forces Bull is 20, it looks like 22 years old.
2:03.0	So drone pilot versus drone pilots boss.
2:05.5	So institutional knowledge within the armed forces,
2:07.8	they've had more time to train up generals and officers and logistical pipelines throughout the country.
2:13.8	Yeah, and the Armed Forces Bowl is not so old that it's like,
2:17.2	oh, if I get hit in the
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