Welcome one and all to the Pastor Mike Drop podcast.

My name is Mike Householder.

I'm your host, and I'm joined today by a guest co-host, my wife, Sally.

Hello, Sally.

Hi, Mike.

Thanks for joining us again and pinch

hitting for Emily Lang Paul. Emily is quarantining. She told us we can share that with our podcast

audience because she was exposed to somebody who has COVID, and we're praying that that's all

it is, and she can get back in that chair soon, although it's always good to hang out with you.

It's fun to be here. Thanks for asking. Yeah. But we miss Emily. We miss Emily a lot. We,

not having her around, it feels like we're definitely like limping along. But it is, you know,

post-valentine's day. So it's nice to be with my Valentine's. Yes. I like that too. That's good.

Is this getting awkward for our guest, probably?

We better just kind of transition and change the subject.

Sally, would you please introduce our guests for today's episode?

Okay.

Well, today we're joined with Pastor Richard Webb, who is actually Dr. Richard Webb.

And if you know him, you love him.

So we're happy that he is here

with us today. Can you explain to us what your doctorate is in?

Yeah, my doctorate is in leadership development, specifically the Christian understanding of it.

And my thesis was on investigating how does God grow people? And there's

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