4 ways to have healthy conversations about race | Afrika Afeni Mills
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🗓️ 3 July 2023
⏱️ 13 minutes
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Learning how to have productive conversations about race is a necessary part of the human experience. Educator Afrika Afeni Mills says the best place to start is in the classroom -- because the earlier these skills are taught, the fewer biases there are to unlearn. She shares four actionable lessons to help people overcome their fear and take on these conversations at any age. After the talk, Modupe shares questions to ask ourselves to have more open conversations at work.
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| 0:00.0 | I don't know about you, but it can be hard to figure out how I'm feeling from day to day, or heck, from moment to moment. |
| 0:10.2 | And that's because it can be difficult to identify my emotions. In fact, that's what therapists spend a lot of time doing, trying to get people to understand their emotions. |
| 0:23.4 | I know this from personal experience because let me tell you, I am an emotion suppressor, |
| 0:30.6 | or at least I used to be. My therapist would ask me how I'm feeling, and I would say, |
| 0:40.1 | tired. Her response, |
| 0:48.1 | tired is not an emotion. Being in touch with my emotions regularly is challenging, especially in the workplace. It takes a lot of effort to be introspective when your plate is full and you're running from meeting |
| 0:55.1 | to meeting. But so much of the work we do is influenced by how we're feeling and how we manage |
| 1:01.8 | our emotions. This is even more relevant when dealing with challenging situations and difficult |
| 1:08.6 | conversations about performance, about people, and about so many |
| 1:13.6 | other structural issues like race and gender. So how do we get better at having open conversations |
| 1:22.0 | in our organizations and not be controlled by our emotions in the process. |
| 1:33.7 | I'm Madhuacanola. This is Ted Business. |
| 1:38.2 | Our speaker today is educator Africa Afini Mills. |
| 1:47.4 | In this talk, Africa explains how to have productive conversations about race. She offers tips on how to confront our apprehensions and actively participate in these discussions at any stage in life. Then after the |
| 1:55.3 | talk, I'll share a practice that can be helpful in having any type of conversation that focuses on being aware of |
| 2:02.5 | your emotions. But first, a quick break. |
| 2:11.9 | My name is Africa Afani. |
| 2:14.6 | Africa, spelled with a K, and Afani after Afani Shakur, member of the Black Panther Party |
| 2:21.2 | and mother of Tupac Shakur. As you might imagine, I grew up talking about race with my family. |
| 2:28.0 | My father built bookshelves in the living room of our Brooklyn apartment, and my parents |
| 2:32.5 | filled those shells with the books of black authors |
| 2:34.9 | whose words we were unfortunately unlikely to encounter outside of our home. I have Alex Haley's |
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