4: Visiting Hours

This Sounds Serious

Kelly&Kelly

Comedy, Comedy Fiction, Fiction, Audio Fiction, True Crime

4.7 • 2.6K Ratings

🗓️ 22 September 2020

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Gwen travels to Maricopa County Prison to meet Kirk Todd and get inside the mind of a con man. She learns about his marriage to art forger Helen Chatham and the events that tore them apart. Go to http://thissoundsserious.com/join to get the entire season right now, ad-free.

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0:00.0	Kelly and Kelly.
0:06.3	Previously on this SoundSeries.
0:09.8	Where's my money? Where's my movie?
0:13.0	We know Kirk Todd defrauded a movie studio out of $5 million in 1991 when he convinced them he was making a film called Grand Casino.
0:21.3	We had a meeting with him about Grand Casino and I loved the idea.
0:26.9	And we've explored some of the techniques he used to deceive his victims.
0:30.6	Everyone in Hollywood has an assistant. Nobody talks to each other.
0:34.9	Vincent Carlisle was a truck and the only reason Kirk hired him is because he could be easily manipulated.
0:41.2	We don't usually get a trailer that early on but I guess Kirk was excited.
0:46.3	But we still don't know why he did it or how he expected to get away with it.
0:51.7	Oh, there were so many rumors flying around and only one man can answer those questions.
0:58.2	Hello, Gwen. This is Kirk Todd.
1:01.2	And it's a man I was not expecting to hear from.
1:04.2	Obviously you're going to have to come to me but all the visiting hours information is on the prison's website.
1:12.2	Today, visiting hours with Kirk Todd.
1:15.3	It's this sound serious, Grand Casino, a cast box original.
1:25.3	I'm driving to Maricopa, federal prison, a minimum security facility two hours north of Los Angeles.
1:46.9	This is where Kirk Todd has been incarcerated since the 90s and where he has agreed to speak with me.
1:52.5	All right.
1:55.5	The truth is, for all the mystery surrounding Kirk and Grand Casino, his whereabouts is no mystery.
2:01.7	While Hollywood would love you to think he's dead or disappeared, in fact, he's been in the same spot for the past 27 years.
2:08.0	Did you check in the gate?
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