It's a warning, but accused of many things, are they true?

Are they true?

Well, it depends on what the accusations are.

Well, they're pretty, they're pretty extensive.

I don't have time to go into them all.

Okay, well, let me, I trust you, we're friends, so yes.

Welcome.

You found the portal.

I'm your host, Eric Weinstein, and today we have something that I think is going to

be very interesting for many of you.

We are happy to have a guest that I've been looking forward to meeting for quite some

time, who's been a personal intellectual hero of mind, and he's the Gordar family professor

of Islamic studies, a professor of economics, and also a professor of political science,

all at Duke University.

So welcome, Hosh Geldon is to our esteemed colleague, Dr. Timur Karan.

I'd like to be here, thanks for the invitation.

So the reason that I've been so eager to have you here is that this podcast is themed

around the idea of escape from a more humdrum existence that is starting to, I think, work

less and less well for more people.

And so we're trying to find ways out of the sort of cognitive traps that we've been held

within for quite some time.

And I first became aware of your work when I was searching for an explanation of why the

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