If you're going to build something from nothing, you've got to know what really works.

I took a thousand dollar loan and built a five billion dollar business, and now I make smart investments in new businesses on Shark Tank. This is Barbara

Corcoran and you're listening to Business Unusual. On this episode I know that good

fun makes for good business.

Fun is the most underutilized tool in the building of a business today.

But first, here's today's tip.

You might think that looking at someone's resume and asking them a lot of questions

are the key to finding the right person for a position. You're wrong. Listen here.

I learned early that there are really only two kinds of people at work,

expenders and containers.

Expanders are the kind of people who want to see how far they can go

and they're very comfortable with risks they can take on so much.

They always try to get people to follow them and they're always thinking of a new idea a minute.

Containers are quite opposite.

They like to corral information, they never like to get surprise,

and they always plan way, way in advance.

One day, a very conservative woman walked into my office named Esther Kaplan. One look at

at Esther Kaplan, and I knew she would never become a great

salesperson, which was exactly the position she was applying for.

Everything about Esther was conservative from the little

nitsuit she wore to the little tiny purse with the little class she had closely

held in her hand. So when I gave her my business card and told us her, I'll call you when something opens up,

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