We have to, we have to teach people to quiet their hearts and to open the ears of their heart and to listen to God.

And God will take that opportunity. Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, to every knee shall bow your weekly Catholic podcast on evangelization and discipleship.

I am Dave Van Vickle.

And I'm not joined once again by your, I'm sure you're one of your favorite co-hosts,

at least one of your favorites, right?

Michael Gormley.

Once again, our schedules just can't line up.

But it's okay.

We're going to continue on.

We're going to push forward here and creating an army of evangelists in America, right,

and answering your questions and creating this community of people who are ever trying to expand the circle around them of the kingdom of heaven, right,

and in hopes that our circles will meet one day. And I know it's,

it's tough, it's tough out there. I mean, I get on social media, maybe, I finally took it off

my phone. And I get on like in the mornings and in the afternoons and at night on my computer

just because I have a

forum on Facebook that I have to check and make sure things haven't gone crazy or anything.

But even just like the few minutes that I spend on social media is draining, right?

I mean, I hate political seasons now.

I really do.

And I think like social media makes it so much

worse because, I mean, I'm not convinced that social media convinces anyone of anything. So,

like, I, I kind of stay out of the fray with, with regards to trying to convince people on social

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