4 | Anthony Pinn on Humanism, Theology, and the Black Community
Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas
Sean Carroll
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🗓️ 12 July 2018
⏱️ 61 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Hello everybody and welcome to the Mindscape Podcast. I'm your host Sean Carroll. |
| 0:04.6 | Today's guest is Dr. Anthony Pin, who's a professor in the Religion Department at Rice University. |
| 0:10.9 | Now do not be alarmed despite being a professor in the Religion Department and in fact, |
| 0:15.8 | despite describing himself as a theologian, Dr. Pin is an atheist, a humanist. That's not to say |
| 0:22.8 | that we will not occasionally have actual religious people, actual theologians on the podcast, |
| 0:28.0 | but that day is not today. Anthony Pin has a very interesting trajectory. He grew up in |
| 0:33.4 | upstate New York where he was a child preacher. So at age 12, he was standing up there in the pulpit, |
| 0:39.9 | preaching sermons, bringing people to Jesus, and he was really good at it. It actually was |
| 0:44.4 | quite the calling that he had. He went on to college, in fact, to Divinity School, |
| 0:49.6 | but then along the way he lost his faith. He got the idea that he was trying to help people |
| 0:54.8 | in underprivileged communities. He didn't really think that God was helping them. He didn't |
| 1:00.0 | really think that his Christianity was helping the cause of bringing these people's lives to a |
| 1:06.0 | better state. So he ultimately lost his faith, but he didn't lose interest in the idea of helping |
| 1:11.6 | people. So he stayed a self-described theologian, but now he tries to bring humanism to people |
| 1:19.2 | rather than Christianity. And in particular, he tries to bring humanism to the African-American |
| 1:23.7 | community where atheism, agnosticism, humanism are not very popular. If you look at different |
| 1:30.6 | demographic groups in the United States, I just looked it up. Only 2% of blacks in the United |
| 1:35.8 | States describe themselves as completely atheist. That's compared to something like 6% of Latinos, |
| 1:42.0 | 11% of whites, 19% of Asians. So somehow, if you're an atheist, you're saying, what are we |
| 1:48.7 | doing wrong? Why aren't we reaching these people? If you're Christian, you might say, what are the |
| 1:53.6 | African-Americans doing right? Why are they so much better at maintaining their faith than the rest |
| 1:58.3 | of Americans are? Well, I can't imagine a better person to talk to about these issues than Anthony |
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