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Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar

4/8/26: Trump Fell For Bibi Lies Before War, Alex Jones Freaks On Trump, Ben Shapiro Meltdown, Professor Pape On Escalation

Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar

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Politics, News, Society & Culture, Philosophy, Government

4.310.2K Ratings

🗓️ 8 April 2026

⏱️ 88 minutes

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Summary

Ryan and Emily discuss Bibi lied to Trump in cabinet meeting, Alex Jones freaks on Trump, Ben Shapiro meltdown over Ryan Iran reporting, Professor Pape says trap is not over.

 

Robert Pape: https://escalationtrap.substack.com/

Jeremy Scahill: https://x.com/jeremyscahill?s=20 

 

 

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Hey guys, Saga and Crystal here.

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the future of independent news media, and we hope to see you at breakingpoints.com. Well, yesterday,

1:08.0

the New York Times dropped a massive story bylined by Jonathan Swan and

1:13.0

Maggie Haberman going through the kind of TikTok account leading up to the war and how

1:18.7

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu when he visited in mid-February, February 11th is

1:24.9

the date here, spoke to the president and laid out what he believed was a, the, the, how would we describe this, Ryan?

1:33.3

The likely case of scenarios should Trump launch another air campaign against Iran? This was a big, big story. And I've seen some people saying, well, now we all trust the

1:47.6

New York Times again, because it's got some huge details about what different members of Trump's

1:53.8

cabinet, what different advisors were saying to him. If Jonathan Swan's byline is on a Trump's

2:00.2

story, I mean, Maggie Haberman has obviously a lot of access as well. But if Jonathan Swan's byline is on a Trump story, I mean, Maggie Haberman has obviously a lot

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