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🗓️ 19 February 2022
⏱️ 67 minutes
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0:00.0 | I'm back in plenary session, virtual edition. |
0:02.7 | I'm joined by Jacob Hale Russell. |
0:04.5 | He is an associate professor of law at Rutgers University. |
0:07.5 | He is a former Wall Street Journal columnist. |
0:10.1 | He is joining us to talk about a new paper on masking, but more about elites and I think the pandemic. |
0:16.9 | Professor Russell, it's great to have you back. |
0:19.1 | It's great to be back. |
0:20.9 | Oh, well, boy, you know, I... |
0:22.8 | Though I shouldn't say that. |
0:23.8 | Is it great to be back? |
0:24.8 | Right. |
0:25.1 | A year ago, what I have said, we're going to have the same conversation a year from now. |
0:30.1 | It's been a year, huh? |
0:31.2 | Yeah, the last time we talked, I think, on this podcast has been about a year. And I hope it's a different conversation, but I think there are going to be a lot of the similar themes that we haven't learned from. Your new paper is out. It's in tablet magazine. And what's |
0:42.5 | the title? It's the mask delusion. Masked debacle. It's a debacle. And it is a debacle. Total debacle. |
0:50.0 | So I wonder, you know, we should at least cover some of the broad themes for listeners who haven't yet read it, but they have to read it because I think it's the best. And I've been tweeting up a storm |
0:58.8 | about it because I really do like it. Because I feel like all of the clues were in plain sight. |
1:05.3 | You saw all the clues. You put it together and you told the story of what actually happened. |
1:09.7 | And I think that's a story that a lot of people don't even understand, but that's what actually happened. |
1:14.1 | And I guess I'll maybe toss out a few things and then we'll go from there. |
1:18.1 | The first thing, how it all began, I think people forget, but pre-pandemic, we had a number of randomized control trials and influenza on masking. |
1:24.6 | They were generally negative. And that's why the consensus from World Health |
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