4/30/26 Larry Johnson on Trump’s Tenuous Ceasefire with Iran

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Scott Horton

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4.8 • 902 Ratings

🗓️ 3 May 2026

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Scott interviews Larry Johnson about where things stand with Trump’s war on Iran. The two dig into the cards each side holds as this ceasefire limps along, reflect on the troubling lack of rationality in US policy towards Iran and debunk some common lies and misunderstandings circulating about the conflict. Discussed on the show: “When It Comes to Using Proxies, The US Far Surpasses Iran as a Sponsor of Terrorism” (Sonar21) Larry C. Johnson is a former CIA officer and intelligence analyst, and a former planner and advisor at the US State Department’s Office of Counter Terrorism. Follow his analysis at Sonar21. Audio cleaned up with the Podsworth app: https://podsworth.com Use code HORTON50 for 50% off your first order at Podsworth.com to clean up your voice recordings, sound like a pro, and also support the Scott Horton Show! For more on Scott's work: Check out The Libertarian Institute: https://www.libertarianinstitute.org Check out Scott's other show, Provoked, with Darryl Cooper https://youtube.com/@Provoked_Show Read Scott's books: Provoked: How Washington Started the New Cold War with Russia and the Catastrophe in Ukraine https://amzn.to/47jMtg7 (The audiobook of Provoked is being published in sections at https://scotthortonshow.com) Enough Already: Time to End the War on Terrorism: https://amzn.to/3tgMCdw Fool’s Errand: Time to End the War in Afghanistan https://amzn.to/3HRufs0 Follow Scott on X @scotthortonshow And check out Scott’s full interview archives: https://scotthorton.org/all-interviews This episode of the Scott Horton Show is sponsored by: Roberts and Roberts Brokerage Incorporated https://rrbi.co Moon Does Artisan Coffee https://scotthorton.org/coffee; Tom Woods’ Liberty Classroom https://www.libertyclassroom.com/dap/a/?a=1616 and Dissident Media https://dissidentmedia.com You can also support Scott’s work by making a one-time or recurring donation at https://scotthorton.org/donate/https://scotthortonshow.com or https://patreon.com/scotthortonshow Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Ladies and gentlemen of the press have been less than honest, reporting to the American people, what's going on in this country?
0:11.0	Because the babies are making it.
0:13.0	We're dealing with Hitler Revisited.
0:15.0	This is the Scott Horton Show, Libertarian Foreign Policy, mostly.
0:21.7	When the president doesn't, that means that it is not only...
0:24.5	We're going to take out seven countries in five years.
0:27.0	They don't know what the fuck they're doing.
0:29.3	Negotiate now.
0:31.4	End this war.
0:33.5	And now, here's your host, Scott Horton.
0:39.3	All right, you guys, introducing Larry Johnson, former CIA officer turned no longer CIA officer.
0:46.2	That's good.
0:46.7	They say once a CIA officer, always a CIA officer.
0:49.3	I'm not sure that really counts with a few of these guys I know like you and Ray and uh John
0:56.4	Curiacu and um a couple others but um anyways uh very happy to have you here the guy who told me
1:03.9	the night the war started that oh the war is definitely going to start today and then it did
1:08.0	you know before sun sunup, anyway.
1:19.2	And of course, you've been writing on sonar21.com, your great website, your astute analysis that goes out in the email every morning and been doing endless interviews on all these shows
1:24.5	informing people about all this stuff. People keep asking me,
1:28.1	but to a great degree, I'm just repeating the things that I've learned from the likes of you,
1:33.3	Larry. So why don't you give us your good assessment here on where we stand in this war?
1:38.5	Trump's options for getting us out all the way somehow and putting an end of this thing in any other way
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