We got so many texts and emails and stuff from people who were around the area where

the scumbag killer rapist was doing his thing at the time and talking about how how

scary it was and everybody was on edge and people were beyond on edge, you know, just terrified.

People were bolting their windows shut and people were buying guns and having a family member stay

up all night and just all kinds of stuff. So we thought we'd go back toward the, you know,

the original investigation of trying to find this scumbag. Joseph James, the angel,

072 year old retiree former police officer arrested for the many murders and rapes of the East

area rapist or the golden state killer or whatever. I don't like these cute nicknames very much.

I know I don't use them. Carol Daly was not only a former Sacramento County under Sheriff,

but was one of the original investigators in the East area rapist case and she joins us now.

Hello, Carol. How are you? Good morning. How are you? Very good. We appreciate you sharing a chunk

of your time with us this morning. Thank you. So we're talking before between ourselves before you

came on the air about the incredible frustration you must have felt in investigating these terrible,

terrible cases for such a long time and not having a result back when they were occurring.

Well, when the East area rape cases first started, we were kind of as we looked back on it,

it was kind of like being in the dark ages. You know, we didn't have cell phone officers had to

stop at payphones or they would stop at a restaurant or a donut shop and use a phone to be able to

call headquarters. We had like walkie talkies. We didn't even have radios and all of the cars. So

it was a time we didn't have computer things were coming over on on teletype. We typed up reports

on an old standard typewriter. We were absolutely thrilled when we were finally able to get an

electric typewriter to do our reports on the record searches that we did. You know, they were in

all the big tumblers where you push them, you know, machine and you take out ID cards and

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