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Scott Horton Show - Just the Interviews

4/15/25 Kathy Sanders on the True Story of the OKC Bombing

Scott Horton Show - Just the Interviews

Scott Horton

News, Politics

4.8902 Ratings

🗓️ 22 April 2025

⏱️ 90 minutes

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Summary

Scott interviews Kathy Sanders, who lost two of her grandchildren in the Oklahoma City bombing and has spent the years since trying to get to the bottom of what really happened that day. Sanders tells Scott about her experience arriving quickly on the scene after the attack before they dive into all she’s been able to piece together and how she’s working to get the truth out.   Discussed on the show: Shadows of Conspiracy by Kathy Sanders The Secret Life of Bill Clinton: The Unreported Stories by Ambrose Evans-Pritchard Oklahoma City Bombing Archive An American Bombing: The Road to April 19th (IMDb)  Oklahoma City: What the Investigation Missed—and Why It Still Matters by Andrew Gumbel and Roger G. Charles Kathy Sanders lost two young grandchildren, who lived with her, in the Oklahoma City bombing in 1995. In the years since, she has conducted extensive interviews with those involved to try to get to the bottom of what happened that April morning in 1995. This episode of the Scott Horton Show is sponsored by: Roberts and Robers Brokerage Incorporated; Tom Woods’ Liberty Classroom; Libertas Bella; ExpandDesigns.com/Scott. Get Scott’s interviews before anyone else! Subscribe to the Substack. Shop Libertarian Institute merch or donate to the show through Patreon, PayPal or Bitcoin: 1DZBZNJrxUhQhEzgDh7k8JXHXRjY Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

All right, you, welcome to the Scott Horton Show.

0:11.6

I'm the director of the Libertarian Institute, editorial director of anti-war.com,

0:16.4

and author of Provoked, how Washington started the new Cold War with Russia and the catastrophe in Ukraine.

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0:32.5

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0:41.4

All right, you guys, this is an important and special one for me.

0:43.7

It's Kathy Sanders.

0:59.6

She is a grandmother of two young victims of the Oklahoma City bombing and the widow of Glenn Wilburn, who helped her to investigate that atrocity back in the 1990s. And she has a brand new book out. She previously wrote a memoir called Now You See Me,

1:06.4

How I forgave the unforgivable and after Oklahoma City.

1:11.6

And she has a brand new one out called Shadows of Conspiracy, the untold story of the Oklahoma

1:16.7

City bombing. Welcome to the show, Kathy. How are you?

1:20.0

I'm doing great. Thank you for having me. I'm excited to be here with you today.

1:24.3

Well, I'm so happy to have you here with us. And of course, you came up in the

1:30.1

news last year when HBO put out this great documentary, An American Bombing, the Road to Oklahoma,

1:37.0

or Road to Oklahoma City, I guess. And they did a great job of interviewing you and portraying

1:43.9

your story in that documentary and this

1:45.8

is something that those of us who've been interested in this story for a very long time

1:49.9

have always been very hopeful for that someday someone is going to do a high enough profile

1:55.2

documentary that tells the truth they're going to finally kind of blow the lid off of this story and get things

2:01.7

moving. And I think that might have been the documentary is just a little too late to really,

2:06.8

you know, explode in the bad choice of words to really, you know, take off in the public mind there.

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