#399 – Jared Kushner: Israel, Palestine, Hamas, Gaza, Iran, and the Middle East
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Lex Fridman
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🗓️ 11 October 2023
⏱️ 234 minutes
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EPISODE LINKS:
Breaking History (book): https://amzn.to/3QblTNk
Jared's Twitter: https://twitter.com/jaredkushner
Jared's Instagram: https://instagram.com/jaredckushner
Books Mentioned:
Prisoners of Geography: https://amzn.to/3tubxzf
The Guns of August: https://amzn.to/3FbWD3c
Thirteen Days in September: https://amzn.to/3Fb3EkM
The Great Degeneration: https://amzn.to/4921WQv
The Hundred-Year Marathon: https://amzn.to/3LRobP7
Destined for War: https://amzn.to/3rKwGEE
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OUTLINE:
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=== Recorded on Mon, Oct 9 ===
(00:00) - Introduction
(07:02) - Hamas attack on Israel
(09:55) - Response to attack
(16:14) - History of Hamas
(18:54) - Iran
(20:41) - Al-Aqsa Mosque
(27:06) - Abraham Accords
(36:00) - Trump vs Biden on Middle East
(45:00) - Israeli-Saudi Normalization
(49:12) - How the Israel-Gaza war ends
(53:29) - Benjamin Netanyahu
(57:06) - Palestinian support
=== Recorded on Thu, Oct 5 ===
(59:47) - Trump 2024
(1:03:15) - Human nature
(1:10:13) - Geopolitics and negotiation
(1:18:56) - North Korea
(1:27:35) - Personalities of leaders
(1:34:11) - Government bureaucracy
(1:39:56) - Accusations of collusion with Russia
(1:49:35) - Ivanka
(1:55:30) - Father
(2:04:13) - Money and power
(2:12:56) - Trust and betrayal
(2:21:57) - Mohammed bin Salman
(2:44:16) - Israeli–Palestinian peace process
(2:58:47) - Abraham Accords and Arab-Israeli normalization
(3:08:53) - Donald Trump
(3:13:59) - War in Ukraine
(3:19:14) - Vladimir Putin
(3:26:33) - China
(3:44:50) - Learning process
(3:51:19) - Hope for the future
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | The following is a conversation with Jared Kushner, former senior advisor to the president |
| 0:05.2 | during the Donald Trump administration, and author of Breaking History, a White House memoir. |
| 0:12.0 | He's one of the most influential and effective presidential advisors in modern history, |
| 0:16.8 | helping conduct negotiations with some of the most powerful leaders in the world |
| 0:21.2 | and deliver results on trade, criminal justice reform, and historic progress towards peace |
| 0:28.0 | in the Middle East. On Thursday, October 5, we recorded conversation on topics of war and peace, |
| 0:34.5 | history, and power in the Middle East and beyond. This was about a day and a half before the |
| 0:40.3 | Hamas attack on Israel, and then we felt we must sit down again on Monday, October 9, |
| 0:46.8 | and add a discussion on the current situation. We opened the podcast with the second newly recorded part. |
| 0:54.2 | My heart goes out to everyone who has and is suffering in this war. I pray for your strength, |
| 1:01.6 | and for the long term peace and flourishing of the Israeli and Palestinian people. I love you all. |
| 1:10.8 | And now, a quick few second mention of each sponsor. Check them out in the description. |
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| 1:28.3 | And now, onto the full ad reads. As always, no ads in the middle. I try to make this interesting, |
| 1:32.8 | but if you must skip them, please still check out our sponsors. I enjoy their stuff. Maybe you will too. |
| 1:40.0 | This show is brought to you by Inside Tracker. A service I use to track biological data that comes |
| 1:45.6 | from my body and gives me lifestyle, advice, based on the very data that came from my body. |
| 1:53.0 | It's hard to do these ad reads, if I'm being honest, as I'm thinking about everything that's |
| 1:57.4 | happening in the Middle East today, and all the people who are suffering, the Israelis and the |
| 2:03.3 | Palestinians. I've traveled to that region recently, and I will return to that region. |
| 2:09.6 | And if there's any one thing I could say about those travels, I've got to see just how beautiful |
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