You're listening to the Heart and Hustle Podcast. We are your hosts, Evie McCloud and

Lindsay Roman. Welcome to the show today. Today is one of the best episodes that we

have maybe given to your earbuds or your car speaker.

So I'm just gonna give Evie the floor to introduce who our guest is because you need to keep

listening.

Yes, so if you are not already familiar with Lisa Bivir,

our guest today is the one, the only Lisa Bivir. Our guest today is the one, the only

Lisa Bivir and we are so honored to have her. Lisa is an internationally

known speaker and New York Times best-selling author of many books. She co-host

the podcast Conversations with John and Lisa Baveer

is a frequent guest on At Home with the Baveers and hosts the Fight for Female Podcast.

She co-founded Messenger International which has given away more than 65 million resources, and launched

MessengerX, a discipleship app that reaches 238 countries in 129 languages.

A cancer survivor and a bold truth teller,

Lisa has been married to her husband John

for over 40 years and together they have four sons and eight grandchildren.

So today's conversation with Lisa, we chatted about her book that just came out,

the fight for female and when we, I just, I just need you to understand how just

went off,

went off in the best way possible on this one.

She just went off in the best way possible, on our culture's war on women

and how we are pitted against one another and just so

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