It's a crisis that almost no one is talking about.

In the last couple years, the Chinese Communist Party has hacked and infiltrated our telecom firms, our ports, our utility grid, and major government offices.

They're scooping up classified material,

accessing the calls and texts of high-level officials,

and setting up sleeper bugs that, when the time is right,

could sabotage everything from our drinking water to our airports.

Things like Salt Typhoon, Volt Typhoon, and Sissa aren't grabbing many headlines these days.

But they should be.

And there are subject today on this, the Tech Policy Podcast.

I'm your host, Corbyn Barthold. My guest today is Maggie Miller,

cybersecurity reporter extraordinaire at Politico. Maggie, we are so overdue for this episode,

and I'm very pleased that you are here.

Thanks so much for having me, and thanks for putting the spotlight on a really important issue right now.

Yes, as I said, long overdue, but also this is excellent timing to hit the subject

because I would say a lot of threads in this world are sort of coming to a head,

if I may mix my metaphors. But we got to start somewhere. So let's start with the most

recent evolution, at least in the news of CCP cyber warfare. And that is salt typhoon. What is Salt Typhoon? Well, this is a question I've gotten from,

you know, close sources to close family members in the last few months. Because when you first

hear it, it seems a bit of a wacky name. I think, first of all, I have to say that anytime you hear anything

with Typhoon, it usually comes back to a naming convention from Microsoft, where that's the

name that they give to Chinese-affiliated hacking groups. So in this case, it's known as Salt Typhoon.

It is a fairly large hacking organization unit affiliated,

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