Hey guys, it's the way I heard it, episode number 396.

Love this one.

It's called Selected Garbage from Families of Distinction.

And while it's not necessarily the most bang-on literal title we've ever had,

it was such a great turn of phrase from my guest, who is,

I was going to say the one and only Frank McCourt, but he ain't the one and only. He's not

the one and only Frank McCourt. The one you might remember wrote Angela's Ashes a few decades ago

and totally changed the literary world. This guy has written a book called Our Biggest Fight,

and it might very well change the world as we know it,

reclaiming liberty, humanity, and dignity in the digital age.

There are a lot of people out there, Chuck,

who are deeply, deeply, deeply,

concerned about the impact of social media and the internet and the slow commoditization

of the users into the products themselves. This guy, Frank McCourt, takes it a step further.

He's suggesting that we are fast losing our citizenship headed back

toward a time when we were subjects. If that's all that was going on, that would be worth

having a conversation about. It's a big idea. What makes Frank sort of interesting is that he's a

billionaire. Frank McCourt has built a chunk of Boston.

He owned the Los Angeles Dodgers for a time.

Yep.

And way, way back, as you'll see.

Which, by the way, was just the consolation prize

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