It's time for episode 395 of the Clockwise Podcast from Relay FM, recorded Wednesday, April 21st, 2021.

Clockwise, Four People podcast that seconds to none.

I'm your co-host Dan Morn, and I'm joined across the internet by my good friend, my pal, my dungeon buddy, Mr. Micah, Sergeant.

How you doing today, Micah?

I'm doing well, Dan. That's a very good title,

as long as the person, or a very good intro, as long as the person's paying close attention

to your enunciation. Seconds. Seconds. Yeah, I've got to get that zoon. This is, of course,

the show where we welcome two fantastic guests to talk about four tech topics.

To my left this week, it is our very good friend.

And, of course, the co-host of Fine Podcasts, including Rocket right here on Relay FM.

It's Brianna Wu. Welcome back, Brea.

What's up? It's good to see you all. It's been too long.

It's great to have here. And to my left, it is the internet's favorite hedger, as well as host of the accidental tech podcast and analog right here on Relay FM. It is the person with that wonderful laugh. It's Casey Liss. Welcome back, Casey. You know,

it's only in my opinion that I am the world's in the internet's favorite hager. Hi, everybody. How are you?

We're doing great, Casey. We're so glad you could both be here. I'm going to kick things off today.

So, among the many announcements in Apple's event this week, they doubled down on the Apple TV,

releasing an update to the Apple TV 4K with a new remote and a bunch of other features.

My question for you all is, is this some like deep savvy on the part of Apple, sort of seeing

where the living room market is going?

Or is this just madness?

Well, I'm an unabashed Apple TV fan. I mean, I agree with everyone that's overpriced, and I don't,

yeah, I think it's a fantasy that it's ever going to become a full-fledged game system. Like,

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