The moral of the story is I chose a half measure when I should have gone all the way.

I'll never make that mistake again.

No more half measures, Walter.

Welcome to Talking Giants presented by Draffing's from a host, Bobby Skinner, here with my co-host, Justin Pennick.

And after four years, the first time in this podcast is here, Dave Gallemann is no longer the Giants GM.

He in quotation marks retired, but it was a force retirement.

And Joe Judge is staying, but with a question mark, I'm pretty confident Joe Judge is staying.

We're going to go through all of that.

Justin, the season ended. It was a very bad season for this Giants team, four and 13 overall.

Didn't go the way it wanted for a numerous reasons.

But the reason the main reason why this Giants team after four years is not a good team.

Is because of Dave Gallemann and he is gone and that is a good thing.

There's a lot of things that are annoying me right now with the Giants organization, but the fact that he is gone, although late, two years too late, it is a good thing.

Yeah, hi, hi, Bobby Skinner in a vacuum.

Today is a good day Monday, January 10, 2022.

It's a good day.

It is a celebration worthy of getting Dave Gallemann out of the building.

I know, I know I see you on the other end of the Zoom call and you're, you're wanting a button already.

But really, like I said, in a vacuum, it is a good day.

I think April 26, 2018, along with signing Nate Solder, those two moves of drafting Sequan Barkley on that day and then signing Nate Solder.

I mean, those two moves are the epitome of I think the failure of this tenure.

And those are two moves that have very much still impacted us where we can look at the years 2020 and then especially 2021 and be like, well, what are some of the

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