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Independent Americans with Paul Rieckhoff

395. Baratunde Thurston. An Unimaginably Violent & Painful Weekend. How to Citizen in Chaos. Activating Multiplayer Mode for Democracy. Hegseth: Trying & Missing. AI is Not Taking Your Job. 2 KIA in Syria. VA Cutting 35K More Jobs. Hero of Bondi Beach.

Independent Americans with Paul Rieckhoff

Righteous Media | Bleav

Daily News, Veteran, News, Politics, News Commentary, National Security

4.6 • 907 Ratings

🗓️ 15 December 2025

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

After a weekend of atrocities from the Hanukkah massacre in Sydney to another campus shooting at Brown University, new American combat deaths in Syria, Trump’s escalating boat strikes, looming conflict with Venezuela and brutal VA job cuts, Independent Americans host Paul Rieckhoff turns to someone who can help us breathe, process and fight forward: democracy and respect advocate, Baratunde Thurston.​ Baratunde is an Emmy-nominated thought-leader, writer, comedian, technologist, culture critic and host of PBS’s America Outdoors, as well as the creator of How to Citizen and Life with Machines, his new YouTube/AI series exploring how we live well with powerful technology. In this wide-ranging “Manosphere Monday” conversation, Paul and Baratunde unpack how to stay calm in all this chaos, how to citizen in a time of mass shootings and democratic backsliding, and why our real power is collective—not just a vote every two to four years.​ They dive into the toxic “manosphere” model of masculinity and Baratunde’s devastating description of Pete Hegseth as chasing dominance instead of service, strength and restraint. They contrast that with the leadership of others who embody courage, compassion and a longer view of democracy and the planet.​ Is AI a Christmas present or dastardly coal in our stocking? Baratunde breaks down AI in plain language: why AI itself isn’t taking your job, why AI is really about power and the human leaders making choices, and how we can “activate multiplayer mode” instead of being kept in fearful single-player mode. He explains how AI can help with everyday problems—from home repairs to navigating systems—while also forcing us to ask deeper questions about what we value, what education is for, and how we want to live. It’s smart, useful and fun.  Because every episode of Independent Americans with Paul Rieckhoff breaks down the most important news stories--and offers light to contrast the heat of other politics and news shows. It’s independent content for independent Americans. In these trying times especially, Independent Americans is your trusted place for independent news, politics, inspiration and hope. The podcast that helps you stay ahead of the curve--and stay vigilant. -WATCH video of this episode on YouTube now. -Read Baratunde’s thought provoking latest on Atmos.Earth about America needing a Declaration of Interdependence.  -Learn more about Paul’s work to elect a new generation of independent leaders with Independent Veterans of America. -Join the movement. Hook into our exclusive Patreon community of Independent Americans. Get extra content, connect with guests, meet other Independent Americans, attend events, get merch discounts, and support this show that speaks truth to power.  -Check the hashtag #LookForTheHelpers. And share yours.  -Find us on social media or www.IndependentAmericans.us.  -And get cool IA and Righteous hats, t-shirts and other merch now in time for the holidays.  -Check out other Righteous podcasts like The Firefighters Podcast with Rob Serra, Uncle Montel - The OG of Weed and B Dorm.  Independent Americans is powered by veteran-owned and led Righteous Media. Spotify • Apple Podcasts • Amazon Podcasts  Ways to watch: YouTube • Instagram  X/Twitter • BlueSky • Facebook  Ways to listen:Social channels: Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Powered by righteous media. Welcome to Independent Americans.

1:05.4

Welcome to Episode 3.95.

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I am, of course, your host, Paul Reikoff.

1:10.1

It is Monday, December 15th, 10 days till Christmas.

1:14.3

And Hanukkah is here. Tonight is the second night of Hanukkah. Happy Hanukkah to all who

1:18.6

celebrate. Army Navy was this weekend. Unfortunately, Navy prevailed. But it is Manosphere Monday, and I am coming to you from New York City, USA, where we had our first real snow this weekend.

1:36.5

It was fun. We did some sledding. It was cold as hell, and it remains cold as hell, but we finally got some snow a good week and a half before Christmas. But we are here

1:45.1

on this Monday to keep you warm. And our guest today coming up is going to kick off another big

1:49.9

week of guests, the fantastic baritunde Thurston. He is a thought leader, comedian, tech expert,

1:56.0

TV host, guy I met like two decades ago in a bar in the Lower East Side and full of lots of information inside.

2:02.5

He's coming up in just a minute.

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