Hey, what is up everybody and welcome back to Milhaar podcast. I'm Josh.

And I'm Janelle. I'm in all the way over here

yeah ian's back oh no you were back last week too yeah well you guys just switched seats today right

right i'm back in my corner musical chairs i let we should we should do some musical chairs sometime. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah, we figured it was time to give Ian a little break. You know, Ian is now full-time co-host of Lights Out, by the way. Woo! So if you want more of Ian, head over to Lights out because he'll be joining me forever from here on.

Yippee!

Till the end of time.

Until the end of time.

So Janelle is stepping in as co-host today, which you guys love having Janelle as a co-host.

We did the Billy Milligan episode, which was a very interesting one.

Super fun.

And today we have a wild case. It's really the only way to put it, centered around

just a complete narcissistic piece of shit. This guy's a freak. A meal. And Emil, he will stop

at nothing to get what he wants, including attempting to murder people he claims he loves at all costs.

And this is the case of Victoria Siliers.

And she was an avid skydiver.

And on one routine jump, both of her parachutes failed and she fell 4,000 feet, which to many you think she fell to her death.

But no, she miraculously survived and was wondering, hmm, why did both of my parachutes fail?

Because actually skydiving, believe it or not, relatively safe. Very safe. It's a lot safer than many other activities you can do. Would you ever go? Yes, I want to go, but Kendall will not let me. Oh. She doesn't want to take the risk. That doesn't surprise me. Yeah, yeah. She doesn't want to take the risk. I'd absolutely go skydiving. Really? Yeah, it's on my list of things. I might just do it when she heads out of town one time.

You should. I'm like, hey. Hey, honey. Hey, how's it going? The view's great up here. She would fucking freak out. She'd be so mad. She'd be so. You should go. But I want to go at some point in my life. It looks really fun, and everybody that does it says is exhilarating. I'm so good on that. You don't want to do it? Fuck, no, I'm not jumping out of a perfectly good airplane. I'm so good. I'll do indoor skydiving. That's not the same. I'll fly above a giant fan. I know Ian will go. Ian and I'm going. Have you gone before? No, but I would like to. All right, I'll take Ian then. Have you seen the videos of the guy who like, he'll put women's panties over his head and then we'll sing R&B songs before he jumps off? What? Yep. Why do you know? Because I watch all of his videos. I'm like, you're so cool. Okay, so you should do that too.

I will.

Just get me the panties and I'll be ready to go. Get some of your girls' panties. All right. Well, once we obtain that footage, we'll be sure to share. That's wild. All right. Well, this case is absolutely insane. and, you know, as always,

we got to go back to the beginning

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