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The Alisa Childers Podcast

#394 The Case FOR Equal Protection for the Preborn | Ginna Cross

The Alisa Childers Podcast

Alisa Childers

Religion & Spirituality, Spirituality, Christianity

4.8 • 5.4K Ratings

🗓️ 26 July 2026

⏱️ 75 minutes

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Summary

In Part 2 of our series on equal protection for the preborn, Alisa sits down with Ginna Cross, co-CEO of Alliance Family Services, to hear the case for why equal protection should be pursued now—not later. Grounded in a deep conviction that Scripture demands equal justice for every human being made in God's image, Ginna argues that Christians should advocate for laws that protect preborn children the same way they protect every other innocent person.

Together, Alisa and Jenna discuss:

What "equal protection" actually means

Why some pro-life leaders oppose equal protection legislation

The biblical case for equal protection

Common objections, including concerns about criminalizing women

What happened behind the scenes with equal protection bills in Tennessee and other states

The differences—and similarities—between the pro-life and abolition movements

Why this debate matters for Christians who want to think biblically about justice, law, and the sanctity of human life

Whether you agree with Scott Klusendorf's strategic concerns from Part 1 or with the arguments presented by Ginna Cross in this episode, this two-part series is designed to help you hear the strongest case from each perspective so you can think through one of the most significant debates in the pro-life movement today.

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0:00.0

Today we're continuing our series on equal protection for the preborn. Is this something Christians

0:14.8

should pursue right now, or is this something that is actually harming the pro-life movement?

0:19.7

So last week, we heard from Scott Klusendorf.

0:22.5

This was a bit of a friendly debate because I am an advocate of equal protection, but I invited

0:27.3

Scott to make his case that while equal protection is a worthy goal, he doesn't believe that

0:33.0

pursuing equal protection acts at this point in history is strategically wise, and it could actually

0:38.0

hinder or harm the pro-life movement's effort to save lives. Today, we're going to hear the other

0:44.0

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0:55.8

My guest for today is Jenna Cross, who is the co-CEO of Alliance Family Services, which is a ministry

1:01.7

that we partner with on this podcast. She has spent years ministering to women facing unexpected

1:07.6

pregnancies and working on the front lines of the pro-life movement. So in addition

1:12.1

to her work serving families, she's become a leading voice for equal protection legislation.

1:18.3

She speaks and writes on the biblical, moral, and legal case for extending the same protection

1:23.5

to preborn children that the law provides to every other innocent human being.

1:28.6

So although Jenna identifies with the abolitionist movement, today's conversation isn't

1:33.7

primarily about the distinctions between abolitionism and the broader pro-life movement.

1:39.2

It's about the central question we've been exploring throughout this series.

1:43.8

If pre-born children are human

1:45.6

beings with the same inherent dignity, value, and worth as every other member of the human

1:51.1

family, then what kind of legal protection should they receive? So as I mentioned in the previous

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