394: Tech and Trump 2.0

Tech Policy Podcast

TechFreedom

Technology

4.8 • 45 Ratings

🗓️ 13 January 2025

⏱️ 60 minutes

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Summary

Ari Cohn (FIRE) and Corbin Barthold (TechFreedom) preview the biggest tech policy issues of the Trump II administration. Topics include: - TikTok ban: still unconstitutional - Trump’s bonkers TikTok brief - Was it worth it, Brendan Carr? - Obsolete rules for obsolete TV networks - Carr & Sec. 230: not how any of this works - Andrew Ferguson plays MAGA Mad Libs - Ferg & antitrust: not how any of this works - KOSA rises from the crypt Links: Tech Policy Podcast 344: TikTok and the First Amendment (https://tinyurl.com/yc6h2vyp) Tech Policy Podcast 371: So You Want to Ban TikTok (https://tinyurl.com/3thv6wmf) Christopher Terry’s Carr/Fox FOIA request (https://tinyurl.com/f4exh3a9) The Incoming FCC Chair Is Threatening to Censor Views He Doesn’t Like (https://tinyurl.com/wa3j7u9z) Andrew Ferguson’s FTC enforcement priorities (https://tinyurl.com/ms6a33z3) The Trump II FCC and FTC Will Use Any Stick to Beat a Dog (https://tinyurl.com/yd4jyerm)

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0:00.0	We're stuck with him again.
0:28.1	You know who I am talking about.
0:31.1	As something of a bubble-wrapped coastal elite myself,
0:34.9	I don't know how this happened,
0:37.3	but here we are, and I guess we should talk about it.
0:41.3	It's going to be a wild four years. For tech policy, as for so much else, a lot is going to turn on
0:49.3	the whims, the grudges, the prattfalls, the zigzags, the flip-flops, the ramblings, the snarls, the rages,
0:56.3	and the tantrums of one Donald J. Trump.
1:01.2	Wherever his fleeting attention should happen to fall, their chaos will rain.
1:07.5	And that's it. That's all I have any real confidence about.
1:13.8	The rest is sheer speculation.
1:25.6	But speculate we shall. Welcome to the tech policy podcast. I'm Corbyn Barthold, Internet Policy Council at Tech Freedom.
1:31.1	I'm joined by Ari Cohn, lead counsel for tech policy at fire.
1:34.3	We're going to talk about the grand designs.
1:38.8	This or that of Trump's various underlings will be doggedly pursuing right until the boss takes a momentary interest in their little fiefdom
1:43.1	and upends everything they've done
1:45.3	in a true social post. All right. What is happening, sir? I'm just riding the wave of chaos,
1:52.8	as always. Glad to be back. So glad to have you back. We've got a lot to cover on this one.
2:00.8	Let's dive right in with what is likely to be
2:03.9	the first big text story of the Trump 2.0 presidency. The TikTok ban. Got to mention right up front,
2:12.4	we are recording this before the oral argument, before the Supreme Court scheduled for Friday morning,
2:20.5	January 10th, we will be publishing this episode
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