#394 - “I Was There” Tech Elites Are Planning Breakaway Civilization | Douglas Rushkoff
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🗓️ 8 May 2026
⏱️ 126 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Right, home from work, walk the dog, kids are back. |
| 0:04.4 | Mom! |
| 0:05.0 | Up the stairs for something. |
| 0:07.8 | Ugh, back down, no idea what I went up for. |
| 0:12.0 | Mom, what's for dinner? |
| 0:13.6 | Chop, sizzle, done. |
| 0:17.1 | Hello, fresh, can't slow life down, but it makes bringing everyone together around the table a whole lot easier. |
| 0:23.6 | So it's phones down, forks up. |
| 0:25.6 | Hello Fresh. Bring back dinner time. |
| 0:28.6 | Hello. |
| 0:29.6 | Nice to meet you, Doug. Good to meet you. Yeah. You are into some fascinating stuff. You've written like 25 or so books. Yeah. And all kinds of wild stuff, the history of media, culture. You can probably do a better job than me. Why don't you sort of explain your background |
| 0:54.7 | and how you got into this. I don't know. I started really, originally I started writing because I was |
| 0:58.8 | interested in alter states of consciousness. And I wrote this book that no one knows about. I wrote |
| 1:03.7 | this book when I was like 24, 25, called Free Rides, Ways to Get High Without Drugs. And the idea was that they're not so afraid of the drugs themselves. |
| 1:17.4 | The people making the laws, they're afraid of the states of consciousness that they provide |
| 1:23.1 | because then people can see alternative ways of understanding reality. |
| 1:27.5 | So once you're high on anything, |
| 1:29.9 | you come back and you go, |
| 1:31.4 | well, why did I agree that this is money? |
| 1:33.3 | Why do I agree that that is rent? |
| 1:34.8 | Why do I agree that I work for him? |
| 1:36.6 | It's like what, all your social agreements go away. |
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