Hello, everyone watching and listening. Today I'm speaking with Australian journalist

and former Prime Minister, the honorable Tony Abbott. We met before once in Australia

and this will be a follow-up to that. We discussed Australia's role on the world stage,

the problems facing the Australian economy and culture, the broader problems that face

the West, how the quasi-cult of carbon threatens, in particular, the poor in the developing

world, why new religions propagate where traditional faith has been abdicated, and the

looming threat of war as China destabilizes and put and pushes forward against Ukraine.

We also discussed our joint involvement in the Alliance for Responsible Citizenship,

the Arc, which is a new venture grounded in London designed to put forward a positive

vision of the future that everyone could in principle be on board with voluntarily.

Mr Abbott, let's start by talking about Australia as a whole. What role do you think Australia plays

on the international front now? How do you think Australia should be conceptualised by people

outside of the country? Well, Jordan, I think Australia is one of those wonderful countries,

which is big enough to be interesting and significant, but not so big as to be intimidating

and threatening, and Australia's history is such that there's really no one anywhere in the world

who has a grievance against us, and that's not true of so many other countries. You think of

the United States, you think of Britain, you think of France, you think of Germany, you think of

Italy, you think of Russia, you think of China, there are grievances that different countries have

against all of those countries, all of those countries have great strengths as well,

but Australia is one of those happy places, which has been a welcoming home to migrants from

all over the world. Yes, we fought on Britain side in two world wars, and we fought as America's

ally, and just about every conflict over the last hundred years that America has been in,

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