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#393: The Murders of Brenda and Erica Lafferty: Under The Banner of Heaven - Part 2

Real Crime Profile

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True Crime, Society & Culture, Exhibit C, Documentary

4.210.5K Ratings

🗓️ 10 August 2022

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

We continue our analysis of the murders of Brenda Lafferty and her 15 month old daughter Erica as depicted in the Hulu Original series "Under the Banner of Heaven" created by Dustin Lance Black. Jim and Laura discuss Brenda's victimology and how she was betrayed time after time by the community and family she was faithful to.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

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0:30.0

An evil presence is in his family.

0:33.0

What if this case isn't just a husband who turned against his wife?

0:38.0

What if tonight is just the first edge of a bone?

0:42.0

Finally working its way out of our own deserts floor.

0:47.0

Head's up right now!

0:49.0

This goes beyond just a murder.

0:52.0

Beyond everything I believe.

1:23.0

Hello and welcome to Real Crime Profile. This is Jim Clementi, retired at Beyond Profile, a former New York City prosecutor and co-host of the podcast Best Case Worse Case.

1:32.0

And with me today is...

1:34.0

Laura Richards, Criminal Behavioral Analyst, former New Scotland Yard and the House of the Podcast Crime Analyst.

1:39.0

And I'm Lisa Zambetti, I'm the casting director for CBS' Criminal Minds and I have cast my share of killers and detectives.

1:46.0

But I've never cast anything quite like the show that we are covering and the case that we're covering, Who Lose Original Series Under the Banner of Heaven by Dustin Lance Black.

1:56.0

And so let's just jump right in talking about the series.

1:59.0

Yes, and I'd highly recommend you do watch it because we are... well, spoiler alerts.

2:04.0

We are going straight in and talking about various things that resonate with each of us, rather than following it episodically.

2:12.0

So please do watch the show and also you may want to read a little bit about the real case behind the show, which is about the brutal murder of Brenda Wright, who was 24 at the time when she was killed along with her beautiful daughter, 15 month old Erica.

2:32.0

So it is a real case. It's a very difficult listen, so and a difficult watch. So also just to give you that trigger warning as well. These aren't easy subjects to cover.

2:45.0

I also think with Ron, let's just go back to him a minute that when we understand the family and the father's role in plastic patriarchy and how he has played the sons off against each other and Ron.

3:01.0

Being the natural eldest and clearly the natural leader being humiliated and shamed in front of the others in the way that he chose to do intentionally because he was trying to carve his own path.

3:14.0

Therefore, dad punished him and emasculated him, but he's still carried on doing what he was doing with his wife clearly the way it was portrayed that they were very much in love and they had children.

3:27.0

But yes, as he's coming against more and more brick walls because of the way his brothers behaving and the rest of the family and he's hurt now he's now got everything on the line of his house, his family, his wife.

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